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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/02/what-is-the-outlook-for-italian-wine-in-2025/feed/ 0 As Italian wine faces up to a number of challenges in 2025, Unione Italiana Vini (UIV) president Lamberto Frescobaldi discusses the global picture with Louis Thomas. Italy may have been cultivating vines for millennia, but 2025 looks like it could be a critical year for the country’s international wine exports. Lamberto Frescobaldi, president of leading Italian wine trade organisation Unione Italiana Vini (UIV), begins with a cautious assessment of the sales performance that can be expected from the Italian wine sector over the course of the coming year. “I think in terms of volumes and value, we will be pretty flat in 2025 – it will be at a similar level to 2024,” he says. Given the current geopolitical climate, a period of stability might be very welcome indeed. One cause of uncertainty is the return of Donald Trump as President of the United States. Trump’s isolationist leanings have made the possibility of imposing high tariffs on wine coming from the European Union a very real prospect. Given that around one-quarter of Italy’s wine exports go to the US, making the country the biggest overseas market for Italian wine by some distance, such a development would certainly be a blow. “The US produces a lot of meat, but what they are allowed to do to their animals, we don’t in Europe, so there has always been a lock on US meat going into Europe, so we will see if he will use sanctions to bring dairy or meat products into Europe,” explains Frescobaldi. However, Frescobaldi believes that Trump’s business sense will dissuade him from trying to punish farmers, including wine producers, in the EU. “I’m not so pessimistic about him introducing sanctions, because if you have sanctions, it naturally brings inflation to his country – one of the things which cost the Democrats the election was inflation, and one of Trump’s goals is to lower inflation,” he continues.

The Russian Question

When not acting as UIV president, Frescobaldi is presiding over his family’s business, the Tuscan wine giant of the same name. While Frescobaldi took the decision to suspend sales to Russia in the aftermath of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Russia remains an important market for Italian wine. Indeed, according to the data, direct exports of Italian wine to Russia between January and September 2024 stood at 545,170 hectolitres, a 55% increase on the 350,260hl total for the same period in 2023. This is also only related to direct exports – a large portion of Italian wine enters the Russian market via neighbouring Lithuania. One thing that Frescobaldi is optimistic about is that 2025 will bring some form of ceasefire agreement between Russia and Ukraine, and that will properly open up the Russian market once again. “I’m definitely sure Russia will become a strong market again,” he says. “It will take some time – they will have to recover from the cost of the war and the sanctions, but Russia has always been close to the Mediterranean and its products, so I see no reason why it would not start again; the question is when. We have to look in front of us, rather than over our shoulders.” Frescobaldi also notes that, in the event of peace, the post-war reconstruction of Ukraine could provide a shot in the arm for Europe as a whole: “A lot of things will have to be rebuilt, and when you are building things, the economy receives a boost, which gives a great opportunity for Europe. So the world is not finished!”

Due South

For Frescobaldi, one global region in particular is ripe for the picking – thanks in a large part to a recent trade deal. On 6 December 2024, the European Union reached an agreement with four members of Mercosur, the South American trade bloc: Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brazil. One of the features of the agreement is the removal of the high tariffs in place for EU products coming into these countries, including still wine (27% tariff) and sparkling wine (between 20% and 35%). Given the potential difficulties that lie in store for European wine in the US market, this trade deal could provide a vital alternative avenue. “Brazil is a huge market; we really couldn’t get there, but now with this Mercosur agreement, we can,” says Frescobaldi, noting the South American country’s high proportion of people of Italian descent (estimated at around 15% of the total population). As of 2022, Chilean wine made up the lion’s share of Brazil’s wine imports – around 40% of the total value, whereas Italian wine only constituted 8%, according to the Observatory of Economic Complexity (OEC).
“Look at the king of Italian exports, Prosecco: why isn’t it big in South America yet? There is a huge opportunity, and I hope Europe doesn’t change what it has decided to do,” Frescobaldi says, “and there is an opportunity for South Americans to sell more products, like quinoa, to us.”

Riding the wave

From a commercial standpoint, Prosecco is still the standout success of Italian wine. Despite its production zone only making up around 6% of the total vineyard area of Italy, sales of Prosecco constitute more than one-fifth (22%) of the total export value of Italian wine. While Prosecco remains the goose that laid the golden egg for Italian wine, Frescobaldi sees opportunities for the country’s other sparkling wines, but warns that not every region or producer aspiring to emulate the success of the Glera-based, tankmethod fizz has what it takes: “Everyone is trying to surf the wave of demand for sparkling, but some of them are going to fall from their surfboard – there are naturally some varieties which are better suited for producing sparkling wines than others,” he argues. Despite this caution, 2024 was something of a blockbuster year for bollicine. For the first time, Italy produced in excess of one billion bottles of sparkling wine, an 8% increase on 2023’s production, with a quarter of this (251 million bottles) popped opened in foreign markets around the Christmas and New Year period, a 9% increase on the previous year ’s level, according to data from the UIV-Ismea Wine Observatory. This also goes against the general EU trend, with 2024’s production of sparkling wine across all member states 8% below 2023’s level.
Internationally, Italian sparkling wine also leapfrogged Italian still wines last year, with 528m bottles of fizz exported, compared to 524m bottles of still red and rosé, and 460m bottles of white wine. “At the end of the day,” argues Frescobaldi, “the consumers are our most severe judges – some of them will like what they have drunk, and others will not. So, in the next 24-36 months, some of the new sparkling wines will fade away, and others will become strong. That being said, this is an amazing opportunity to capture a younger crowd, that are often somewhat intimidated by the complexity of a red wine from Italy.” What is also notable is the drinks to which young consumers are adding fizz. The UIV-Ismea Wine Observatory suggests that spritzes are hugely popular, estimating that a staggering 2.8bn cocktails made using Italian sparkling wine (especially Prosecco) were consumed around the world last year. One question that has caused sleepless nights for many in the industry is whether crackdowns on alcohol in the name of health will harm the wine sector. Frescobaldi advocates for the view that wine should keep its place on the table. “Some years ago, everyone was against red meat, then chicken, then milk – a cappuccino was considered deadly for you – and now it’s alcohol,” he says. “We have to be careful and avoid being excessive, but if we don’t have those social moments with wine, life can become very boring.” Worries that health authorities might try to hit the drinks sector are not ungrounded – Ireland is due to introduce warnings about links between excessive alcohol consumption and disease on bottle labels in 2026, and the US Surgeon General recently proposed adding cancer warnings to wine packaging. In the face of such an onslaught, Frescobaldi remains a staunch defender of Mediterranean-style moderation, pointing out: “Given how long life expectancy is in Italy [82.2 years, according to the World Health Organization (WHO)], maybe it’s actually a good diet – what we are eating and drinking, our style of life, is far better than it has ever been.” It’s an attitude which brings to mind the Tuscan saying: “A tavola non s’invecchia” – “at the table, one does not grow old”.

Lamberto Frescobaldi at a glance

Lamberto Frescobaldi is the 30th generation to work at Marchesi de’ Frescobaldi, the Tuscan wine powerhouse which counts estates including Montalcino’s Tenuta Castelgiocondo and Super Tuscan producer Ornellaia in its portfolio. He joined the family business in 1989, becoming its president in 2013. In 2022, he was elected as president of the Unione Italiana Vini (UIV), Italy’s national association for wine since 1895, which today brings together more than 800 member companies, which are responsible for more than 50% of Italian wine production and 85% of export turnover.
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The Big Interview: Sebastián Tramón https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/01/the-big-interview-sebastian-tramon/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/01/the-big-interview-sebastian-tramon/#respond Thu, 09 Jan 2025 17:23:08 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=663575 Emiliana’s head of sustainability, Sebastián Tramón, is on a mission to push boundaries within organic and regenerative practices.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/01/the-big-interview-sebastian-tramon/feed/ 0 Emiliana’s head of sustainability, Sebastián Tramón, is on a mission to push boundaries within organic and regenerative practices. The wine trade is full of big personalities shooting for glory, but it’s often the quiet ones beavering away in the background that are most deserving of being celebrated. One such humble hero is Sebastián Tramón, or Captain Planet as he’s affectionately known by his team. As head of sustainability at Emiliana Organic Vineyards in Chile – the world’s largest organic wine producer – for the last 10 years Tramón has spearheaded the estate’s numerous environmental projects and investigative initiatives, while looking after its CSR and Fairtrade activities. Not only this, he has also kept on top of Emiliana’s organic, biodynamic and regenerative certifications. He’s a man with fingers in many pies, but seems to take it all in his stride, practising what he preaches by living and breathing Emiliana’s holistic ethos and hands-off approach to winemaking. Tramón’s dedication to the cause saw him scoop the Green Personality of the Year gong at db’s 2024 Green Awards, which he was both surprised and delighted to win. “I wasn’t expecting it and am really proud of it. Winning the award is a big responsibility and very motivational. It makes you want to keep pushing forward and striving to be better,” he says. Founded in 1986, Emiliana made the move to organics in 1998, and its certified organic vineyard holdings now stretch to 1,150 hectares across Chile’s strip, from Casablanca, Colchagua and Cachapoal, to more recent acquisitions in Maule and Bío-Bío down south. Tramón believes the winery’s success stems from having the confidence of its convictions from the get-go when it came to organics. “To be organic, first and foremost you have to be a good farmer,” he says. “When Emiliana converted to organics in the ’90s, producers were trialling organics on their worst plots of land, but our founders went with their best plot first. Their success has helped to grow the organic wine movement in Chile, and organics is increasingly being adopted by conventional winemakers, which is great. People are realising that toxic pest control chemicals aren’t the answer and are going back to natural products.” Having been the first estate in Chile to pursue organic and later biodynamic certification, Emiliana’s range spans 11 different labels, including Coyam – Chile’s first premium organic wine – and Gê, the country’s first certified biodynamic release, made by Noelia Orts; and the Adobe and Novas ranges that are presided over by Emilio Contreras. The portfolio also includes no-added-sulphur brand Salvaje (meaning ‘wild’), Chile’s first certified organic traditional method sparkler Almaluna, and the Signos de Origen line, which includes a Pinot Noir and a Chardonnay/Roussanne blend aiming to showcase the top terroirs in the Casablanca Valley. For Tramón, practising organic and biodynamic viticulture dials up the deliciousness in the wines. “Our grapes have a higher amount of phenolic compounds and antioxidants, and the resulting wines are healthier and a faithful representation of where they come from. They let nature do the talking,” he says. “Biodynamics looks at things holistically, treating each individual vineyard as its own ecosystem. It made a lot of sense to us to work in this way. We don’t communicate about it a lot, but it’s a great framework.” While it would be easy for Tramón to rest on his laurels, having already achieved so much within the organic wine space, he’s keen to keep pushing forward and breaking new ground, aware that the eyes of the wine world are on Emiliana when it comes to all things green. “Being the world’s biggest organic winery is an honour, but it means that we can’t make any mistakes,” he says. “We want to push the boundaries of what’s possible within the organic wine movement and advocate for more sustainable production. We’ve been working with rural schools, teaching kids about organic agriculture, and have been lobbying the Chilean Government for more support for small organic producers. There’s always room for improvement and more work to be done.” Among Tramón’s most recent achievements is steering Emiliana towards Regenerative Organic Certification (ROC), which the estate attained in 2023 in another first for Chilean wine, joining the likes of Patagonia in the esteemed club. To do so, Emiliana had to meet stringent soil health, animal welfare and social equity standards, with only certified organic and Fairtrade wineries even considered for the certification.
It’s a milestone Tramón is incredibly proud of, though he’s wary of the term ‘regenerative’ being used as a buzzword by wineries that don’t have the credentials to back it up. “It was a natural step for us to move towards regenerative viticulture. It’s all about creating a more holistic way of working, and it goes deeper than organics and biodynamics into measuring the impact of what you’re doing in terms of cover crops and carbon capture on your vineyards,” he says.
“Regenerative agriculture is the new paradigm for sustainability, and with it comes a big risk of greenwashing, as there is currently no framework or standards in place for what it means to be regenerative. For us, it comes down to third-party certification, so that people know we’re not just saying that we’re doing it; we’re actually doing it.” Tramón found the focus on the human element of the ROC certification particularly pertinent, and feels this often gets ignored when it comes to sustainability within the wine trade. “There’s a big focus on worker wellbeing, which is an important piece of the puzzle and often overlooked,” he says. “I was in a meeting with monopoly representatives from Norway, Finland and Sweden recently and they were talking about modern slavery in the wine industry with regard to vineyard workers not getting paid properly in South Africa, Italy and even France. You can’t take care of your land, plants and animals, and not your people. It doesn’t make sense.” Emiliana goes beyond paying its employees a fair wage each month, offering on-site medical visits for vineyard workers and technical training scholarships for their children. While he’s big on certification as a way of proving your green credentials, Tramón admits that there are currently far too many organic certifications out there, and that streamlining them into one global standard would by a savvy move for all involved.

Toxic pesticides

While interest in – and demand for – organic products is on the rise, Tramón believes there is still a lot of work to be done if organic wines want to make a bigger splash. “There has been a shift in attitude towards organic wine in recent years, and they usually get better scores,” he says. “Global wine consumption is decreasing, but organic wine sales are in growth, so we’re on the right track. One of the biggest challenges is the need to communicate about what it means to be organic and why the wines are different. Retailers and importers have an important role to play here in helping to get that message across.” Going forward, he would like to see the worst offenders on the toxic pesticides front being held to account, and more government incentives to help winemakers make the move to organics. “When you’re a conventional winery that’s using chemicals that damage people and the environment, it’s not a level playing field. They should be more heavily scrutinised about what they’re doing, how they’re doing it and what products they’re using,” he says. “That’s not happening right now, so they aren’t motivated to make changes. There aren’t enough government incentives around the world to increase organic production, but the market is asking for it.” Sustainability may be taking up more column inches and getting more airtime as the need to take action ramps up, but progress hasn’t been linear, as Tramón points out. “Pesticide use in South America, Africa and Asia has been increasing in recent years, which is a problem,” he says. “We have to take action soon in order to turn things around, but the world is facing food scarcity problems, and we need pesticides to grow the crops to feed the people, so it’s a difficult situation.”

Paradigm shift

One paradigm shift he is pleased to see is the increased importance that’s being placed on soil health both in the wine industry and in the wider agricultural sector. “It’s important for humans to have a healthy gut microbiome – they say the gut is the second brain – and it’s the same for soils,” he says. “The more diversity of micro-organisms you have in your soils, the healthier, more resilient and nutrient-rich they will be.” Keen to prove that organics is possible even in more extreme climatic conditions, Emiliana recently planted a 270-hectare vineyard from scratch in Bío-Bío in southern Chile. It’s a project that has forced the team to continuously adapt its approach to make things work. “Organics can be done everywhere in the wine world, but some places are more difficult than others,” Tramón admits. “It’s colder and wetter in Bío-Bío, with different soils and different diseases, so getting used to the conditions has been a challenge. We’ve learnt to do everything within a shorter time-frame, as it’s too cold and wet to do things like fertilising in the winter.” There seems to be something quite Nietzschean about Tramón, and you get the sense that he quite enjoys the struggle, and the myriad challenges that come with being organic, as it makes the victories all the sweeter. “Working this way isn’t easy, and there is no silver-bullet solution,” he says. “But we have proved that it’s possible to be organic at scale and produce competitive-sized yields.” It all comes down to listening to, and working in harmony with, the environment. “Nature is never static. It’s not a factory. You can’t control it or its output. You have to work closely with it and constantly observe it in order to find new solutions.” Tramón’s words bring to mind the famous Albert Einstein quote: “Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.”

Green light: Emiliana’s sustainability milestones

• Founded in 1986, Emiliana made the move into organics in 1998, releasing its first certified organic wine, Coyam 2001, in 2003. The winery is now certified organic across 100% of its 1,150 hectares of vineyards and only buys certified organic grapes. • Emiliana was the first winery in Chile to be certified biodynamic, releasing biodynamic wine Gê 2003 in 2006. The estate works according to biodynamic principles, planting by the phases of the moon, nurturing cover crops between its vines, integrating cows, sheep and chickens in its vineyards, and using biodynamic preparations to increase the microbial life within its soils. • In 2011, Emiliana attained Fairtrade certification. A year later, it was named Green Winery of the Year by the drinks business. In 2019, all of Emiliana’s wines became vegan-certified, and in 2021 it reached the 1m-case milestone of organic wines sold around the globe. • In 2023, it was the first winery in Chile to obtain Regenerative Organic Certification (ROC) after meeting stringent standards of soil health, animal welfare and social equity. As part of its ROC commitment, Emiliana makes its own compost from 100% of its organic waste. In 2024, Emiliana attained B Corp certification, reinforcing its green commitments. • The estate is working towards ensuring that 100% of its packaging is reusable, compostable or recyclable by 2025, and that 100% of the electricity used in its vineyards and wineries is from renewable sources by 2026. • As part of its 2030 project, Emiliana is also aiming to reduce its carbon footprint by 46% by 2030. • “It’s a huge challenge,” head of sustainability Sebastián Tramón admits. “We’ve reduced emissions by around 20% so far – the remaining 26% is the hard bit. We’re moving towards renewable electricity and using electric vehicles, including tractors. We’re also trying to better measure the carbon levels in our soils and reduce the amount of nitrogen in our vineyards, and are working with the companies in our supply chain to get them on board.” • Emiliana has already achieved its goal of creating a protected biodiversity hotspot across 30% of its estate, while promoting species richness in its vineyards through regenerative farming practices.  
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The Big Interview: Grant Ashton https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/12/the-big-interview-grant-ashton/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/12/the-big-interview-grant-ashton/#respond Thu, 05 Dec 2024 16:52:37 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=659807 Grant Ashton, CEO and founder of 67 Pall Mall, tells Lauren Eads about targeting young members, the futility of Michelin stars and taking his brand global.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/12/the-big-interview-grant-ashton/feed/ 0 Grant Ashton, CEO and founder of 67 Pall Mall, tells Lauren Eads about targeting young members, the futility of Michelin stars and taking his brand global.
For someone who never intended to work in the wine industry, let alone hospitality, Grant Ashton has done a pretty good job of succeeding in both. Next year will mark 10 years since the former hedge fund manager opened 67 Pall Mall in St James’s, London, and started on a path to becoming a global wine mogul. Although he scoffs at the suggestion, it’s not without merit. The London club remains a Mecca for wine lovers, with 6,000 wines on its list (800 by the glass), and the ‘67 Pall Mall’ brand is now global. The team opened a high-altitude venue in the Swiss Alps resort of Verbier in 2021, a 15,000sq ft club in Singapore’s Orchard Road in 2022, and an en primeur club in Hong Kong in 2024 where “you swing a cat and hit all four walls”, with more venues in the pipeline. The company buys an enormous number of wines every year, and is the world’s biggest user of Coravin, says Ashton. But he’s the first to say that building a wine business on this scale was never the plan. “If I’d understood how much time, effort and money it was going to take, I’d never have done it, absolutely zero chance,” he admits. “If I had turned to my wife and said: ‘By the way, darling, I’m going to give up a fabulously well-paid career to earn less and I’ll also be spending more time away from home’ – ridiculous. But it’s such great fun.” Back in 2010, Ashton had visions of opening a wine bar in Marylebone, where he and a few like-minded friends could enjoy wines from their own collections, without paying the usual mark-ups, but they couldn’t find a venue.

GRAND OLD BUILDING

Instead, a very grand, very old building became available in St James’s – a Grade II Listed former bank, designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens in 1929. Did Ashton spot a gap in the market for a private members wine club and pounce? Not exactly. Even then, he had ideas of opening a winecentric restaurant, but a planning application was turned down by the local authority, which wasn’t keen on having any more restaurants or bars in St James’s. It did, however, approve of a club – and 67 Pall Mall opened in December 2015. “This was an accident, to a degree,” Ashton says. “We thought a few hundred people might care about a wine club. We now have 4,000 members in London, 3,500 in Singapore, a few hundred in Hong Kong and just under 800 in Verbier, which only has 4,500 residents.” Membership fees are crucial to the model of 67 Pall Mall, bringing in an additional income stream that allows Ashton to offer wines at prices far lower than is possible in a restaurant. “I buy a bottle of wine for x, I add a small margin, and as long as I keep marking my book to the right price and keep my margins wafer-thin, subsidised by my membership fee, I don’t care [what the price is],” he explains. In London, his “very modest” fees run to £2,500 a year for an individual membership (£3,000 for joint), plus a £1,750 joining fee. Ashton also offers under-30s reduced membership fees (£1,250 a year), allows them to pay monthly and waives the joining fee. “We want those young people, and the average age of our members is actually going down,” he adds.
Clearly he depends upon a healthy supply of deep-pocketed, wine-loving clients. But Ashton is too professional to let slip any of the big names that grace his members’ list, or the blockbuster bottles he might have shared with them (save for a Cheval Blanc 1947 with “dear old” Tom Harrow, aka The Wine Chap). Needless to say, some of Pall Mall’s members are almost as high-profile as its wines, and they run the gamut from trade regulars and corporate heads to politicians, celebrities and, perhaps, a prince or two. “Fine wine is often a marker of a life well-lived, and some very interesting people love fine wine,” is as much as he’ll say. “The beauty of a club is that nobody tends to approach other people in an unwanted way. If you’re a fancy film star or politician, no-one is going to start berating them or saying how much they love their last movie. I’ve sat next to some quite serious people in London restaurants. I witnessed the break-up of one celebrity couple, and that was the end of that in the Press the next day. But nobody went up to them, because London is very cool. London will sit there and go: ‘You crack on...’”
But, despite its exclusive veneer, 67 Pall Mall is not elitist, Ashton insists. “Everyone says: ‘You must be a club for billionaires and millionaires.’ We really aren’t. We’re about people who love wine. Now, a whole bunch of richer people can afford to pay my membership fees and buy wine at the price it is right now. But we’ve got members that are like my kids, 20-somethings. They’ve not got a lot of money, but they love wine.” Four venues are now operational worldwide, but Ashton is far from finished with building his empire. Sites in Burgundy and Bordeaux are due to open in the next two years: 67 Pall Mall Bordeaux will spread across four floors and feature an 8.2-metre tall wine tower and a rooftop terrace, while 67 Pall Mall Beaune will be located inside a historic townhouse built in the 1780s, 200 metres from the Hospices de Beaune. Meanwhile, 67 Pall Mall Melbourne will open in 2025, occupying the top three floors of a 15-storey building that was once the headquarters of a bank. At 21,500sq ft, it will be the group’s biggest venue and already has 600 members eagerly anticipating its opening. What’s driven this global expansion? Profitability, of course, but also space, which they simply “ran out of” in London. But Ashton is a shrewd businessman and knows how to make the best of a fluctuating global market. He’s already set his sights on Bangkok, where import tariffs have been slashed from 54% of the declared value to 0% indefinitely, and excise tax dropped from 10% to 5%. Shanghai is another prospective city, where he “did 22,000 steps” scoping out suitable locations. “I don’t get out of the back of a taxi and say: ‘Yeah, this is nice.’ I pound the streets in the same way as I’ve done in Mumbai, Hong Kong and a million different cities. That’s kind of how I do it.”
Ashton can list a dozen more cities that he’s sussing out, including Taiwan, Seoul, Sydney and Jakarta, as well as some that he’s keeping under wraps. But there is an altruistic intent also. The aim isn’t to “make squillions”, he says, but to support local wine regions and help producers find more routes to market. As for the wider industry, Ashton is critical of wine’s global distribution model, which he says “everyone knows is broken”, bogged down by “layers and layers of people and intermediaries”, and bemoans its pricing model, with too many wines priced “off what they were last year, or when they last sold”, despite multiple global shocks to the economy. He hastens to add that he has no solution. But, for those navigating the cut-throat hospitality sector, Ashton does have some painfully honest and simple advice, which is to maintain cash flow, and lots of it. Most of Ashton’s venues have needed £10mto £20m-worth of investment, so having access to cash via private sources and shareholders has been paramount. Not a bank, he adds, which “won’t lend you money unless they know you don’t need it”. But Ashton’s connections in the financial world have clearly been an advantage in this regard. “I’d love to think I could have done this at 20 or 25, but I didn't know anyone, and who was going to trust some finance guy at the age of 30 to lend me millions?” he says. Today, Ashton has 225 investors backing the London club, 106 in Singapore, 80 at both Beaune and Bordeaux, while Melbourne is on track to reach 200. “Somebody once said to me: ‘Don’t go bust running a profitable business,’ because there’s a difference between being profitable, and having enough cash to sustain what you’re doing and get you through,”he explains. This was especially true during the Covid-19 pandemic, when 67 Pall Mall was able to retain staff on full pay. “That’s where a lot of hospitality gets it wrong,” Ashton says. “You can be doing amazing things, but you can’t eat a Michelin star. You can’t pay the staff on great reviews. You need access to cash that allows you to survive, to get through it.” He adds: “The key to any hospitality business is to either be incredibly profitable or just have amazing cash flow.” Luckily for Ashton, he’s been able to achieve both – and there’s nothing accidental about that.

Grant Ashton at a glance

Grant Ashton spent 30 years running trading floors in London’s financial district before pivoting to the wine industry. He began his financial career at Samuel Montagu & Co, also working for UBS, Salomon Brothers and Barclays, where he was head of European credit trading at Barclays Capital. He later became CEO of Infinity Capital Markets and a partner in a hedge fund at Omni Partners LLP, before leaving to focus on 67 Pall Mall (named after the building’s address but which also tallies with his birth year, 1967), which opened in St James’s in 2015. The members-only club has since opened spots in Verbier and Singapore, and will open a new site in Melbourne next year. Ashton lives in Singapore, and continues his search for future clubs worldwide.
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The Big Interview: Andrea Bocelli https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/11/the-big-interview-andrea-bocelli/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/11/the-big-interview-andrea-bocelli/#respond Tue, 05 Nov 2024 09:00:31 +0000 https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/?p=654803 Andrea Bocelli has one of the world’s most recognisable voices. In this db exclusive he tells Sarah Neish about his debut wine collection, Bocelli1831, which hits shelves early next year.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/11/the-big-interview-andrea-bocelli/feed/ 0 Andrea Bocelli has one of the world’s most recognisable voices. In this db exclusive he tells Sarah Neish about his debut wine collection, Bocelli1831, which hits shelves early next year. A lawyer, classical singer, author, documentary maker... Andrea Bocelli’s professional interests have spanned multiple galaxies over the past decades. But his star power hasn’t dimmed. And now the global superstar can add winemaking to his roster of achievements. Born in a rural Tuscan town in 1958, Bocelli inherited “a deep love for the land” from his family, who sold farm machinery and dabbled in winemaking. “I would describe myself as a connoisseur, but a very moderate drinker,” says Bocelli, whose memories of wine began with “tiny sips stolen from my father’s glass”. A bottle of red, he reveals, felt synonymous with home. “My father took pride in the wine he made and drank, even though it was a simple, amateur effort crafted by hand – just as his father and grandfather had done before him.” All that is about to change, however, as early next year Bocelli and his brother Alberto will reveal to the world their debut wine collection, produced in partnership with Zonin1821. The Italian powerhouse behind the extraordinary success of Kylie Minogue’s Prosecco, Zonin1821 owns seven wine estates across Italy and supplies wines to some of the UK’s most prestigious on-trade venues, including Claridge’s, The Connaught and La Petite Maison. It’s a far cry in terms of scale and international acclaim from the Bocelli family’s humble winemaking roots, and yet perhaps not so much in terms of core values. Bocelli reveals he is relieved to have found in Zonin1821 “a partner of the highest calibre – a large wine group that, despite its size, remains family-run and driven by a passion for local winemaking traditions, and care for the land”. The multi-award-winning tenor’s wine range goes by the name of Bocelli1831, and comprises three expressions: a Prosecco DOC, a white IGT Tuscany blend of Viognier and Vermentino, and a red IGT Tuscany blend made from Sangiovese, Merlot, Syrah and Cabernet Sauvignon. Priced between £11–£12.50, the wines will be commercially available in the first quarter of 2025. While almost all celebrities with a drinks brand under their belt claim to be “hands-on” during the creative process, Bocelli was not afraid to completely rip up the rulebook. He insists that he entrusted the team at Zonin1821 “with the crucial technical decisions to make our vision a reality”, but db learns that some hairpin turns were made in terms of style following an early tasting of the wines by the singer. The collection was originally conceived as a series of single-varietal expressions, but after tasting them Bocelli felt keenly that additional grapes should be introduced, requiring the oenological team to go back to the drawing board to produce, instead, multi-varietal blends. “I have a clear vision of the quality I strive for, shaped in part by the privilege of tasting some of the world’s finest wines,” Bocelli tells the drinks business. “I refuse to compromise on quality, authenticity or sustainability.” It was a slightly different story when it came to determining the price for his wines, however, with Bocelli content to defer to “individuals far more knowledgeable than I am about the appropriate value to assign to a bottle, considering the economics involved”. His one request was that his wines “represent something special within reach of as many people as possible”. Rather than gathering dust in collectors’ cellars, Bocelli wants his wines to be “uncorked with ease and enjoyment – perhaps for a Sunday lunch or a dinner with friends”. So, no small task then – produce authentic Italian wines that meet the highest quality level, within the financial reach of the everyday consumer. Here, Zonin1821 was able to fully deploy its expertise, utilising its global reach and connections to arrive at an end product that is both premium and affordable. Most of the grapes that make it into Bocelli1831 wines are sourced from the hills of Valdera in Tuscany, “where my ancestors lived and worked”, and where his brother Alberto (pictured left) still manages the family farm. The estate is also where Andrea Bocelli stables his “beloved horses”, having been a keen rider since childhood – he trekked the Via Franciagena on horseback for a docu-film in 2021. He also likes to “challenge himself” with a game of chess, and is an avid football fan, supporting Inter Milan.

Life changing event

Indeed, it was a football that caused a life-changing event in Bocelli’s early years. Born with a visual impairment caused by congenital glaucoma, he lost his eyesight completely when, aged 12, he was hit in the face by a football. His loss of vision has not stopped him from touring the globe performing for audiences of millions, nor from racking up a library of accolades ranging from a Golden Globe and seven Classical Brit awards to a star on Hollywood’s Walk of Fame. To date, Bocelli has sold more than 90 million albums and generated more than 16 billion streams worldwide with popular anthems such as Time to Say Goodbye, to become one of the world’s most recognisable voices. Not only that, but pop stars including Ed Sheeran, Jennifer Lopez, Dua Lipa, Bono and Ariana Grande have queued up to duet with him. One can only imagine how, in the absence of sight, other major senses may become amplified. In a musical context, this might mean an ear that can unravel the many layers of sound in a complex symphony, for example. Has Bocelli’s blindness proved an asset in terms of tasting and developing his own wines? “I don’t know for sure. What I can say is that what we often call ‘limitations’ can be transformed into opportunities – paths for growth,” he says. “Every human being must come to terms with the tools given to them, whatever they may be, and our communication channels with the world are numerous, powerful and intricate. All it takes is the willingness to cultivate them. It’s no coincidence that some see everything but understand nothing, while others, without even looking, manage to perceive it all.” In terms of what he likes to pour in his own home, Bocelli namechecks wines from Marchesi Antinori and Marchesi Ricasoli, as well as handpicked bottles of Barolo, Brunello, and Amarone. “I have a fairly well-stocked cellar, though it contains no precious bottles,” he says. “The one I cherish the most – what I consider the most valuable and perhaps the most under-appreciated (as I doubt it has many other admirers) – is a bottle from 1928, the year my father was born. It’s our own wine, certainly not a Château Petrus, but I would never part with it, regardless of any (unlikely) offer.” Bocelli believes that music and wine often share a common language. “It’s a combination I highly recommend,” he quips. “After all, along with good wine, good music is one of life’s great pleasures. Singing comes from a wave of euphoria, almost from the need to express oneself beyond words. In this sense, wine can also open the soul.”]]>
The Big Interview: Catherine Leparmentier https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/10/the-big-interview-catherine-leparmentier/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/10/the-big-interview-catherine-leparmentier/#respond Mon, 07 Oct 2024 08:41:16 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=651119 Great Wine Capitals has helped to elevate world wine tourism to new heights – and Catherine Leparmentier has been tasked with guiding the initiative since its inception, writes Roger Morris

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/10/the-big-interview-catherine-leparmentier/feed/ 0 Great Wine Capitals has helped to elevate world wine tourism to new heights – and Catherine Leparmentier has been tasked with guiding the initiative since its inception, writes Roger Morris. OVER THE past 25 years, Catherine Leparmentier has had a front-row seat as the world wine industry has transformed. Jolted by the quickly emerging energy of wine tourism and, with it, the growth of direct-to-consumer experiences and wine sales, the industry saw a global coming together of wine producers and drinkers like never before. As of 2023, the global wine tourism market was estimated to be worth US$85.1 billion – and that sum is rapidly increasing. Although thousands of wineries worldwide and millions of people in the wine trade have taken part in this relatively recent tourism phenomenon, no one person has been more instrumental in driving forward these changes than Leparmentier, whose offices overlook the quais of Bordeaux, where she heads both Bordeaux tourism and serves as secretary general to the global network known as Great Wine Capitals (GWC). As recently as 30 years ago, there were few wine-producing areas outside northern California that threw open their doors to anyone other than professional wine buyers, and certainly not in staid Bordeaux. Securing a visit with a tasting at a prominent château, especially one on the Left Bank, was almost as difficult as getting an audience with the Pope. Weeks of preparatory letter-writing by mail or by fax were generally involved, and greeting guests was a chore most owners and château directors undertook somewhat reluctantly – a favour to a wine merchant who had requested it for “a very good customer” who happened to be on holiday, for example.

New generation

Today, a new generation of winery owners who run these multi-million-dollar businesses consider tourism as a major revenue stream, one without middlemen, and their hospitality directors – positions that didn’t exist a few years ago – now avidly compete for the tourism awards given out annually by Leparmentier ’s Great Wine Capitals. Twenty-five years later, the organisation has member cities in most major wineproducing regions. The original three were: Bordeaux, San Francisco/Napa Valley and Porto. Since then, Bilbao/Rioja, Mainz/Rheinhessen, Lausanne, Verona, Adelaide/South Australia, Mendoza, Valparaiso/Casablanca Valley, Cape Town and Hawke’s Bay have all been added. Leparmentier well remembers the moment of GWC’s genesis. The vehicle for creation was her former boss, who had a dream, and then tasked Leparmentier with making it come true. Robert Beynat, the man who started Vinexpo and who headed the Bordeaux Chamber of Commerce and Industry in the late 1990s, wanted to create an organisation linking the world’s great wine cities that had famous wine regions nearby – but only one “capital” per country. “Robert came to me one day in the late 1990s and explained it to me,” Leparmentier recalls, and she agreed it was a great idea worthy of exploring. “Then he said: ‘Well, Catherine?’” From that day on, Leparmentier owned this idea, and in 1999 she launched a worldwide network of wine cities with an emphasis on tourism, creating something that had never before existed. Leparmentier seems born to do this job – intelligent, collaborative, enthusiastic, practical, hard-working and goal-driven, but at the same time able to relax over a long lunch with a glass of wine while talking business with a wine writer or a trade executive.
“Our ongoing challenge is communications between members,” Leparmentier says. “It’s a very diverse group from diverse places. When we’re meeting online, someone is always having to get up in the middle of the night to participate.”
She has learned through the years to grow slowly, only admitting new members who are well-organised. At any one time she “always has several enquiries on my desk,” she reports, “and we are looking at two or three who may be serious possibilities. To qualify, first the wines need to be great and, second, there needs to be a large city nearby.” A native of Bordeaux, Leparmentier graduated in 1986 from Bordeaux Montaigne University in Pessac with a master ’s degree in languages. She began immediately working in the Economic Ministry, with an emphasis on advising Bordeaux firms, and spent one year based in Zurich before joining the Bordeaux Chamber of Commerce and Industry in 1997. She has worked there ever since. Married, with two daughters in their early 30s, Leparmentier says her love outside work is music. She sings alto in the well-regarded Groupe Vocal Arpège de Bordeaux choir – “mainly classical music, Baroque and Renaissance”, she says – and for a time headed the group. “When I travel as a tourist, it usually has to do with a musical event,” she says, before adding, “but hopefully there is a winery to visit nearby.”

Tourism awards

From its inception, GWC has helped to connect cities and the wine trade with business services and education, as well as delving into issues such as sustainability, but it has been its annual wine tourism awards – both regional and global – that have driven tourism. Not only are winery initiatives and accomplishments rewarded, but wineries in other regions will often adapt or copy ideas from other regions for themselves – a kind of proving ground for best practice. Categories include: accommodation; architecture & landscape; arts & culture; innovative experiences; sustainable experiences; restaurants; and services.
Sweeping views: Hawke’s Bay became a Great Wine Capital last year Both well-known and lesser-known wineries have become successful entries. The 2024 global winners, for example, include Alkina Wine Estate in the Barossa Valley; La Casa Cosme Palacio in Laguardia, Rioja; Château Giscours in Margaux; Benguela Cove in the Cape Winelands; Steins Traube in Rheinhessen; Bodega Alpamanta in Mendoza; and Casas del Bosque Winery in Chile’s Casablanca Valley. As Leparmentier has noted, a region that wants to develop tourism must first have great wine and, generally, affordable quality wines as well, and a dining scene to go with them. “Food is a big thing,” she says, “because today’s tourist expects to be able to have gastronomical experiences as well as great wine.” Many visitors now expect to enjoy food at wineries, if not at the restaurants and cafes that many now offer, then at least in the form of wine and food pairings in the tasting rooms. While comfortable lodging is important, it is less crucial to success, Leparmentier says. “With the younger generation, they often expect to have experiences, even in the tasting rooms, and they tend to be very cosmopolitan.” In addition to San Francisco and Napa Valley, she cites other major wine tourism successes. “Here in Bordeaux, there was very little tourism 25 years ago, and 10 years ago it was still developing. Today, it is a major business,” she says. “Porto is also doing very well, partly because the city of Oporto made a lot of financial investment. And Mendoza is even starting to become overbooked, partly because Argentines are now visiting the city from as far away as Buenos Aires, which they used not to do.”
Going nowhere: Leparmentier isn’t ready for retirement any time soon Leparmentier explains that, when the deadly Covid-19 pandemic interrupted international commerce, “we had two years when travelling was almost not possible, so many wine regions and wineries had to reinvent tourism. In Europe, including here in Bordeaux, few local people traditionally visited local wineries. They just bought bottles at wine shops. “In Napa Valley, there had been a tradition of catering to local and nearby residents to visit their wineries,” she says. “During Covid, we learned to do that in Bordeaux. People began taking their weekends to drive to local wineries.” GWC helped to popularise in Bordeaux and elsewhere such American innovations in tourism as recruiting for wine clubs during visits and staging weddings and engagement parties amid the grandeur of vines and stately buildings.

Economic bonanza

In fact, the success of wine tourism has sparked criticism that tourism itself has become a problem in some regions in spite of its economic bonanza. However, Leparmentier believes that the problems are often generalised and overstated. “There are traffic problems in Napa Valley because it’s between mountains with one major highway,” she says, “but we don’t have that problem in Bordeaux, where everything is spread out. And people tend to not like cruise ships,” she adds, before noting that their visits have helped to revitalise downtown Bordeaux and the area around the Cité du Vin visitor attraction. Where does wine tourism go next? “We see our next opportunity in expanding the wine tourism season. It used to be that it was from June to September [in the Northern Hemisphere],” Leparmentier says. “Now it has been extended further, even to 10 months. What wineries are learning to do is to find new year-round experiences for visitors based on the season.” Additionally, she says, Bordeaux is now extending its tourism reach to an expanded Nouveau Aquitaine region, noting that increasing tourism to the nearby Cognac region may have some difficulties as many distilleries don’t have tasting rooms. One thing that isn’t expected to change any time soon is the leadership of GWC. “People ask me when I’m going to retire,” Leparmentier says. “But I love my job – and I’m not through yet!”
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The big interview: Ana María Cumsille https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/09/the-big-interview-ana-maria-cumsille/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/09/the-big-interview-ana-maria-cumsille/#respond Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:56:23 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=646959 Thirty years since Carmenere was rediscovered in Chile, Viña Carmen winemaker Ana María Cumsille tells Eloise Feilden how she came to love the country’s flagship grape.

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Thirty years since Carmenere was rediscovered in Chile, Viña Carmen winemaker Ana María Cumsille tells Eloise Feilden how she came to love the country’s flagship grape.

The big interview: Ana María Cumsille IN NOVEMBER 1994, French ampelographer Jean-Michel Boursiquot walked through a vineyard in the Maipo Valley’s Alto Jahuel. It was there that he discovered something that would reshape Chile’s wine industry. Strolling through what were thought to be Merlot vines, he spotted something – a twisted stamen. From this Boursiquot made his fateful discovery – these were not Merlot vines after all, but Carmenere, a grape variety thought to be practically extinct since 1860, when French plantings were decimated by the phylloxera epidemic. Carmenere had made the journey from Bordeaux to Chile in the 1850s with a shipload of other varieties. Thought to be Merlot, the grape had been unwittingly planted throughout Chile’s wine regions for almost 150 years, dubbed ‘Merlot Chileno’ for its distinct characteristics compared to European vines. Viña Carmen, Chile’s oldest winery, played host to the momentous discovery, and the event reshaped its approach to winemaking. Following, quite literally, in Boursiquot’s footsteps, today it is winemaker Ana María ‘Anita’ Cumsille who walks through the vineyards at Viña Carmen. The Carmenere discovery is a legacy which Cumsille has come to admire, but this wasn’t always the case. “In 1994 I was in my final year at university when I heard about the rediscovery of Carmenere, though I did not delve into it deeply at the time. Since I was not a winemaker yet, I was not fully immersed in the wine world, and I did not grasp the significance of this event for Chile,” Cumsille says.
She wasn’t alone. Even by 1996, when Viña Carmen bottled its first Carmenere, marketing the wine as the ‘lost variety of Bordeaux’, it had to be bottled under the Grande Vidure identity, since the variety was not registered with the Ministry of Agriculture, nor approved by law. It wasn’t until 1997, three years after Boursiquot’s visit, that Carmenere was included in the list of wine producing varieties with DO status. Among winemakers, the decision to embrace Carmenere was a contentious one, with some Chilean producers continuing to bottle their wines as Merlot well into the early 2000s. Chile’s love/hate relationship with its flagship variety is one Cumsille has experienced on a personal level; her own relationship with Carmenere has been fraught. Though she’s always understood it to be “emblematic” of Chile, and especially for Viña Carmen, she admits: “For many years I didn’t like it”. Carmenere, she argues, is difficult to get right, and Chile’s winemakers have often made wines from the variety which are either too green or too ripe. It’s only in the last five to 10 years, Cumsille says, that the grape variety has been able to shine. “We have learned how to make a good Carmenere,” she says, and Chile is today producing wines which she says are “very exciting”. However, she says somewhat brazenly: “If you asked me that 10 years ago, I would have told you no.” In 2023 Carmenere represented just 8.9% of national plantings, making it the fifth most planted variety in Chile. Cabernet Sauvignon is the most planted grape in the country, with more than 37,000 ha of vines. The Maipo Valley has become synonymous with the grape, and Cabernet Sauvignon-based wines are a major protagonist in Chile’s international success story. Cumsille says that having a good reputation for multiple grape varieties is important for Chile’s reputation. “Without a doubt, it enriches our portfolio and strengthens Chile’s identity as a versatile and dynamic wineproducing country,” she says. Even so, Boursiquot’s discovery of Carmenere in 1994 was a turning point for Chilean viticulture, and a valuable one. In the decades since, Chile has flourished to become the heartland of a variety which, before 1994, had not been knowingly vinified for more than 100 years. Chile currently boasts the highest area of Carmenere plantings in the world, and the grape continues to be identified as its flagship variety.

GREATER UNDERSTANDING

This year marks the 30th anniversary of the event which shaped modern Chilean winemaking. Looking back, Cumsille appreciates how far the nation’s relationship with the grape has come. “Over the past 30 years, we have developed a deep understanding of the Carmenere variety, recognising its specific demands regarding terroir conditions to reach its full potential,” Cumsille says. The Apalta Valley has emerged as one of the most prominent regions for Carmenere, thanks to its granitic soils and warm climate. Nestled among hills and influenced by the nearby sea, Apalta is home to treasured old vineyards which produce some of the best Carmenere wines in the world. “We are now creating wines with their own character and identity – elements that have become embedded in the DNA of Chilean wine,” Cumsille says. Her own contentious relationship with the grape has evolved. “It’s always a challenge,” she admits, but I like a challenge. When something is difficult, I like it.” Viña Carmen’s treatment of Carmenere has changed too. The winery began producing its Gran Reserva wine in 1996, and today has evolved to include a Delanz Carmenere Apalta in its portfolio. Additionally, since the 15th anniversary of the Carmenere rediscovery, Carmen has released a commemorative wine made from the variety every five years. Boursiquot returns to Chile in November to celebrate the 30-year anniversary of his discovery, and Viña Carmen plans to launch a new Carmenere wine to mark the occasion. Cumsille vows that the winery is still committed to the variety. After all, it's a grape “which continues to be a fundamental pillar in our history and in our future”.
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The Big Interview: Fiona Campbell https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/08/the-big-interview-fiona-campbell/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/08/the-big-interview-fiona-campbell/#respond Tue, 06 Aug 2024 11:36:38 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=642571 Fiona Campbell’s career in wine PR has spanned six tumultuous decades, involving clients as varied as Krug, Majestic and Quinta do Noval.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/08/the-big-interview-fiona-campbell/feed/ 0 Fiona Campbell’s career in wine PR has spanned six tumultuous decades, involving clients as varied as Krug, Majestic and Quinta do Noval. This article is free for 24 hours. To subscribe to the drinks business and read all our exclusive content click here. Ask someone how they found their way into the wine trade and you can expect an unconventional response. Indeed, it would take an unusually imaginative careers advisor to suggest this path. Yet that’s precisely why the wine trade tends to attract such an interesting bunch of people, often with a strong entrepreneurial streak that helps them to navigate the fascinating alleyways that run from vineyard to shelf. Combine such an engaging crowd with the most convivial of all products and the result – for all this industry’s well-documented challenges – can make the idea of retirement rather unpalatable. Just ask Fiona Campbell, whose career in wine PR has spanned six decades of radical change in the way producers connect with their customers. Her role in this evolution, like the PR business itself, is difficult to quantify with precision, but Campbell has done much to create the template for these relationships that we now take for granted. On the way, she has lent her expertise and steely charm to everyone from Champagne Krug through to generic campaigns by Wines from Spain and game-changing retailers such as Majestic. It’s not only the brands who have benefitted: several generations of wine PR managers have learned from the best, while countless journalists have breathed a sigh of relief after liaising with someone who understands their needs just as much as those of the producers she represents. Now, at last, everyone must learn to fend for themselves. Having celebrated her 80th birthday last November, Campbell is determined to leave the stage for good. After all, the last two decades have really been an encore. “I did once attempt to retire about 20 years ago,” she admits. “I sold my company to a big multinational and said to my children that I was going to move to a cottage and make jam. They gave me six weeks and I lasted three.”

Enticed back

The individual who enticed her back into the fray was Christian Seely, managing director of AXA Millésimes, whose portfolio enfolds Bordeaux second growth Château Pichon Baron, Sauternes’ Château Suduiraut, and insiders’ Pauillac pearl Château Pibran, right through to Domaine de l’Arlot in Burgundy, Disznókő in Tokaj, Quinta do Noval in the Douro and its most recent addition, Outpost Wines in Napa Valley. That would have been an enticing treasure chest for anyone to turn down. It also helped that Seely and Campbell had worked together since 1995, when he first took charge of Quinta do Noval and handed UK distribution to the now defunct agency Paragon Vintners, a client of Campbell’s. “Everything Christian did was so admirable: his vision, his style,” recalls Campbell of those early efforts to restore Noval’s fortunes. Campbell is also quick to offer generous credit to the many other people who have had such a formative impact on her long career, especially in the early days when both women and PR were rare features of the wine trade ecosystem. Alongside Tony Dee, managing director of Paragon Vintners, she singles out Jeremy Watson, who ran the Wines from Spain office and encouraged Campbell to channel her talents into the new field of generic campaigns. But perhaps the earliest, most pivotal supporter was Peter Hasslacher, whose family wine brand Deinhard was a client during her days as director of the Bristol-based southwest division of Royds advertising group in the late 1970s.
In the run-up to the Bristol Wine Fair, Campbell used her fashion PR nous to ensure that Deinhard appeared in shop windows across the city. “No-one else was doing anything like that,” she recalls. Clearly impressed, Hasslacher persuaded this woman with then minimal wine knowledge to handle PR not only for his own brand, but also those he imported, which included Taylor’s Port. “In those days, the wine trade was not terribly keen to talk to the consumer; that was the retailer’s job,” remarks Campbell. “If they wanted to talk to them, they had to use the Press, which tended to mean the Circle of Wine Writers.” Having come up with her own, rather broader, press list, Campbell then set about persuading producers to embrace the novel concept of a press trip. With no template in place, Campbell once again created her own. “I remember explaining that people need to get a feel for the place, to have dinner, to go for a swim,” she muses. “You have to make them fun and through that you build relationships and they’ll get the spirit of the vineyard.”
Portugal’s Quinta do Noval has been one of Campbell’s clients for 28 years One early learning curve was the importance of Campbell herself being present on these trips, especially the earliest ones, in order to deploy skilful diplomacy when clients voiced opinions that might not come across so well beyond the intimate confines of the dinner table. Likewise, at times her job has involved persuading producers what not to show journalists, although she must be one of the few people who can conjure up genuine enthusiasm for a bottling line. “I’m always fascinated by the romance of it,” she admits. “All the work that went into getting to that point, where the bottles are going and who’s going to drink them.”

Strategy staple

These days, many producers run a highly professional hospitality arm for all corners of the trade, and often consumers too. The press trip may be a staple of their communications strategy, but it has inevitably evolved in line with the space and budget pressures now imposed on newspaper wine columns themselves. “Nowadays, time is so precious that people won’t necessarily spent four days visiting one vineyard,” observes Campbell. Another major change, perhaps the biggest, is the rise of digital communication. As a regular judge for The Drinks Business Awards, Campbell has seen at first hand “how much emphasis PR firms put on social media”. Unafraid to swim against the tide, she argues: “I’m still not so sure it’s a good idea. You’re not just after numbers; it’s about relevance.” That’s not to say these online platforms aren’t a useful component of her PR toolbox. “The key to it is choosing the right people to work with; people who are talking to an audience that is interested.” It’s clear that Campbell sets far higher store by real-life relationships. It was these, rather than any large budget, that enabled her to secure Quinta do Noval as the main base for series three of The Wine Show. The sight of three Hollywood stars relaxing on your terrace with a glass of your own dry white wine, then treading your grapes with real gusto, must surely be worth more than an expensive advertising campaign or flurry of Facebook ‘likes’. It wasn’t all plain sailing, though: just try putting up 26 crew members in the middle of harvest. A few brief dalliances with larger PR firms confirmed to Campbell that this route was unsuited to her approach and personality. “I don’t knock big corporate PR companies because they do a certain job, but it’s not for me,” she remarks. “Unless you’re a very big brand with a budget to spend, you need a very entrepreneurial take on PR, someone who knows the journalists and has those relationships.” Creativity has always been key. “Even if you’re given a socking great trade and press tasting to run, you’ve got to make it fun,” insists Campbell. A prime, personal example of this left-field yet highly effective approach was the rather surreal experience of interviewing Chariots of Fire director David Puttnam at Royal residence Clarence House on the unlikely subject of cork oak forest preservation. Another of Campbell’s great supporters was Christopher Fielden, who recruited her services in the 1980s for PR assistance on Spanish brand Marqués de Cáceres. It’s fair to say that not many wine trade events before or since have seen three generations of the Spanish Royal Family descend on Claridges.
Campbell with her lurcher, Maisie Fielden and Campbell also introduced California wine brand Sutter Home, taking a stand at Vinexpo. Apart from the Bordeaux trade show’s infamous heat, Campbell remembers with amusement “the sight of all these Frenchmen coming to see what a Californian wine was doing there. They’d have a taste, say: ‘Pas mal,’ then come back with their winemaker”. The 1980s were also fledgling days for dynamic UK retailer Majestic. Meetings for this particular client would see Campbell perch on cases of wine alongside Majestic’s Esme Johnstone and Giles Clarke in their Battersea branch. “They got into buying special parcels and the tasting idea,” she notes. “It was all very new at the time." Majestic wasn’t the only company to shake up the UK’s wine retail landscape during this era. “Supermarkets were not really selling wine when I started,” observes Campbell. Together with the rise of retailers who import direct and a now urgent desire from all corners of the trade to communicate with their customers via such a proliferation of channels and writers, today’s wine world would have been unimaginable when Campbell joined it in the 1970s. What’s more, it’s a world she has played a quiet but vital role in shaping. “There’s a lot of mystery about wine, and it’s been good to see how that’s been broken down,” remarks Campbell. “Doors have been opened.” In fact, with so much noise and fragmentation, the major challenge for wine PR professionals these days is to find a way to cut through. Crucial too is the recognition that today’s winning formula may not be so effective tomorrow. “You’ve always got to be prepared to learn,” insists Campbell, “even if, these days, it’s possibly from someone the same age as my grandchildren. Be open to new ideas.” It certainly doesn’t take much digging below the surface of exciting developments in the UK wine scene to unearth Campbell’s expert touch. She was involved in the 1999 creation of Wine Relief, a spin-off from charitable fundraiser Comic Relief, which ran successfully for many years. The nascent English wine industry has also benefitted from her expertise – most notably, the respected Hampshire producer Exton Park. “It’s never felt like a job,” sums up Campbell. “If you’re going to do it well, you have to feel like you’re an important part of the team. It’s not just about the budget – it’s ‘us’, not ‘them’.” Only now, as she completes a steady handover of these clients to Madeleine Waters of The Co Company – a former protégée now firmly established in her own right – does Campbell break one of her cast-iron rules of good PR. Finally, if reluctantly, she has allowed herself to become the story.  
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The Big Interview: Matteo Fantacchiotti https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/07/the-big-interview-matteo-fantacchiotti/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/07/the-big-interview-matteo-fantacchiotti/#respond Mon, 08 Jul 2024 12:31:32 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=637865 In one of his first interviews given to the trade, Matteo Fantacchiotti talks about coming home to Italy to take up the post of Campari Group CEO. By Tom Bruce-Gardyne.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/07/the-big-interview-matteo-fantacchiotti/feed/ 0 In one of his first interviews given to the trade, Matteo Fantacchiotti talks about coming home to Italy to take up the post of Campari Group CEO. By Tom Bruce-Gardyne. AFTER THREE years running Campari Asia Pacific, Matteo Fantacchiotti returned home to take up the role of group CEO in April. In one of his first interviews in the job, he tells db: “Now that I live in Europe, I can really see that, as soon as there’s a ray of sunshine, all the bars and terraces are becoming orange. This is not due to the sun. This is Aperol.” It would be hard to overstate the importance of the Aperol brand to Campari Group, which acquired the neon-coloured botanical liqueur in 2003, when its revenues were less than €50 million a year, most of them in the Veneto. Thanks to the phenomenal growth of the Aperol Spritz serve, the brand accounted for 24% of Campari’s global sales of €2.9 billion in its last full-year figures (FY23). In April, Fantacchiotti took over as CEO from Bob Kunze-Concewitz, who is given much of the credit for creating this extraordinary orange wave; so much so, that the board and shareholders awarded him an eye-popping €30m ‘thank you’ for his “remarkable leadership and exceptional service” after 17 years at the helm. His successor believes Aperol still has “a big runway for growth”. “We look at Aperol in terms of consumption per capita versus beer,” says Fantacchiotti. “In Italy, it’s still only 1.2% of beer. So, for us, we say the sky’s the limit.” The equivalent percentage in the UK is just 0.06%, while in Asia Pacific it would be almost impossible to quantify outside Australia. Having once worked for Carlsberg, he believes Aperol’s ability to recruit from international beer brands is a big opportunity in the region. As is Aperol’s colour, which for some reason seems to be an irresistible trigger for any member of Gen Z with an Instagram account. “You know that in Asia people don’t eat or drink anything before they’ve taken a picture and shared it,” Fantacchiotti says. In Europe, you may wonder if the brand was simply there at the right time to catch the Prosecco boom, but he shakes his head: “Actually, if you talk to the Prosecco industry, they would tell you they feel blessed about Aperol, because it’s been driving so much growth in recent years.”

Serious Prosecco

If it so desired, could Campari build a serious Prosecco brand, something to rival a big Champagne? “It’s a very interesting thought,” Fantacchiotti replies – and the company, to be fair, does already have two wines in its vermouth and sparkling products Cinzano and Riccadonna, respectively. “Because I’m quite optimistic and a bit of a dreamer, I think it’s possible,” he says, after a long pause. “But honestly, I would not prioritise it for my tenure. I think we have bigger categories to play with.” Not least Cognac, where Campari is now playing in the premier league, having just finalised the acquisition of Courvoisier – from Suntory Global Spirits (formerly Beam Suntory) in May. At US$1.2bn, it is the biggest deal in the company’s history and one that begs a simple question: if the Italian-based multinational believes now is the time to plunge into Cognac, was Suntory’s board wrong to pull out? “I wouldn’t comment on them, although I have very clear views about why they did it,” says Fantacchiotti, who explains that the deal fits Campari’s strategy of acquiring premium brands to strengthen its position in the US and Asia. “A lot of people are saying Cognac’s not doing well, which is true, but we know these big categories are cyclical, and we think Cognac will bounce back,” he says. Another reason for the acquisition was this: “We like dusty, unloved brands with fantastic heritage, where we can really dig into the story of the brand. That’s a job we can do for Courvoisier.”
Despite the widely reported travails of the big four Cognacs in the US, where Hennessy’s bid to buy market share through discounting has caused real pain for its rivals, Fantacchiotti doesn’t sound unduly worried. He believes there is a natural correction going on after a period of “excessive pricing and de-stocking”, and adds: “We also say – it’s better to enter the category at the bottom, because you can grow it again.” The Courvoisier deal includes impressive aged stocks, which will give Campari scope to develop VSOP-and-above Cognacs in China. At present, EU brandy (including Cognac) is facing an anti-dumping probe by the the country’s authorities, possibly in retaliation for last year’s EU inquiry into Chinese subsidies for electric cars. So far, Courvoisier is not huge in the region; but interestingly, in January analysts at Citibank cited the company’s “limited exposure to an increasingly uncertain China” as one reason to buy shares in Campari. Yet that is set to change if Fantacchiotti has his way.
Pass it on: Fantacchiotti (left) with predecessor Bob Kunze-Concewitz As of last year (FY23), Asia Pacific accounted for only 8% of the group’s business, and half of that was in Australia. As the new CEO, Fantacchiotti announced that he wanted to grow this to 15%–20% of the total within five to 10 years. When I quote this back to him, he sounds a little reticent about specific targets; however, he does believe there are huge opportunities for his brands in Asia, particularly in India and China. “One of the things we need to get there is for the rest of the group to stop growing at double digits,” he says. “Obviously, that’s a joke, but in the last three years we doubled the business in Asia, and by doing so we moved from 7%–8%.” When Fantacchiotti joined Campari as MD, Asia-Pacific, in 2020, its sole in-market company was in Australia. “Now we have six, in all the places where we believe we can compete effectively,” he says, listing the firm’s new outposts in South Korea, Japan, China, India and New Zealand. Having laid the foundations, he says: “We now have the ability to execute our marketing model, which is: a love for the experiential, liquid on lips and digital activations. Obviously, it’s totally different if you can do it through your own people, rather than distributors. And we already have places in Asia where our brown spirits – Glen Grant and Wild Turkey – and Aperol are doing really well.” As to whether the region has an aperitif market yet – aside from Australia –Fantacchiotti seems unfazed and says: “Is there an aperitif market in the US? I don’t know. What I do know is that Aperol is a drink whose taste profile people love. It’s refreshing, it’s sessionable, it’s thirst-quenching and it’s the Italian summer in a glass. When people see someone holding a glass of Aperol Spritz, they immediately say: ‘Oh, I also want that,’ and you can see what we call ‘the orange spill’ happening.”
This most contagious of drinks can spread fast, fuelled by billions of shared images on social media. Naturally, its success has not gone unnoticed by rivals. “Others are trying to tap into the spritz market with drinks like the limoncello spritz, but we don’t think this is at the expense of Aperol,” Fantacchiotti says. Instead, it has helped the great mother brand of the business: Campari itself. “Initially we didn’t push Campari as a spritz; it was mostly as a Negroni or in a classic cocktail like a Boulevardier or MiTo (Milano-Torino),” he explains. “But the spritz is growing, and it’s now 25% of Campari’s volumes in Italy.” Those of us who have been enjoying Campari-andsoda for years are clearly on trend. “And we’ve just realised we have a beautiful non-alcoholic spritz, which is Crodino,” Fantacchiotti declares, as if emerging from the cobwebs of Campari’s back-bar. With its pocket-sized triangular red bottle, Crodino has been an Italian staple since 1964, but only reached the UK three years ago. “Now, we’re starting to invest in it,” he says. “We’re going to launch more prominently in the UK. We have a new format, a new formula and a bigger bottle.”

Future acquisitions

Campari, the brand, is second to Aperol representing 11% of the group’s net sales, followed by Wild Turkey Bourbon and Espolòn Tequila, both on 8% as of FY23. As for future acquisitions, might there be room for more whisky? The portfolio has a solitary single malt Scotch in Glen Grant, and nothing from Ireland or Japan. “Everything that can help us in the US and Asia, and is premium, we look at,” Fantacchiotti replies. “But I need to say that Glen Grant in Asia is doing phenomenally well off a small base.” Having enjoyed 35.7% organic sales growth in last year’s results, Espolòn Tequila is now a “global priority brand”. Fantacchiotti accepts that the category remains heavily dependent on the US and Mexico, but says: “What we believe is that everything that’s really big in the US will at some point come to the rest of the world. We see that Tequila is starting to come, both in Asia and Europe off a small base. “If there’s a brand that’s the perfect entry-point into premium Tequila,” he continues, “with that perfect combination of equity and price point, with a great liquid and a very easy proposition for consumers to understand, it’s Espolòn.” To stand out from all the margarita brands, it has embraced the paloma cocktail with its ‘Espaloma’. “We call it spritz-like, thirst-quenching and sessionable,” Fantacchiotti says – in what is a neat summation of Campari at its best.  
 
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The Big Interview: James May https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/06/the-big-interview-james-may/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/06/the-big-interview-james-may/#respond Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:30:09 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=633201 The presenter of The Grand Tour talks to Louis Thomas about getting into the gin business, why pubs are failing, and the problem with non-alcoholic drinks

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/06/the-big-interview-james-may/feed/ 0 The presenter of The Grand Tour talks to Louis Thomas about getting into the gin business, why pubs are failing, and the problem with non-alcoholic drinks. "Two pints of beer, salted peanuts and a bag of crisps for £17.50? That’s quite a lot,” says James May, clad in his hi-vis cycling jacket, delivering the drinks to our table overlooking the Thames at The Dove in Hammersmith. “I used to go to the pub a lot in my early 20s, and I was fairly broke back then, and with the best will in the world I’m fairly well-off now, but beer seems more expensive now than it did then,” he jokes. May is certainly a man who knows his pubs; after all he co-owns The Royal Oak in Swallowcliffe, near Salisbury in Wiltshire. He describes his motives for buying half of the pub alongside entrepreneur Simon Andrews as being “entirely selfish”. “Myself and my partner, Sarah [Frater], have a cottage in Wiltshire that we bought on a bit of a whim eight years ago, and The Royal Oak is the only pub within walking distance,” he says. “The people who owned it gave up on it and were going to sell it, and there were rumours that it was going to be turned into a house, or maybe even a shop, which seemed quite absurd. The people running the pub suggested that I should invest in it, and it suddenly occurred to me that if the pub wasn’t there, we wouldn’t have a pub within walking distance.” The timing of May’s investment, made in 2020, was not ideal. “We bought it just before lockdown, which was a really bad business decision, but a deal is a deal, and we’d already agreed to buy it,” he says. Despite the difficulties of operating a hospitality business during the Covid-19 pandemic, May says that The Royal Oak is “popular” at present. Even so, he claims that the pub is not a big money-spinner: “It still doesn’t really make a profit; it makes enough money to maintain itself.”

Essential trifecta

May attributes the positive reception the pub has received from punters and critics alike to it being well-run, as well as having the “essential” trifecta of “nice staff, decent food and good bogs”. As for his own role at The Royal Oak, he remarks: “I go in there most weekends and make all sorts of constructive suggestions, and they don’t take any notice because I don’t really know anything about running a pub.” Although he jokingly pleads ignorance, May has become something of a voice for the pub trade – though a dissenting one at that. Shortly before he met the drinks business, he appeared on BBC’s Newsnight current affairs programme, where he commented that pubs were “not monuments”, and that they had to adapt to continue operating. “I got a lot of flak for that, with people saying that their pub was brilliant, but it closed down due to costs,” May says. “All businesses have to deal with rising insurance and rising energy costs, people having less money to spend – it’s true of pubs, restaurants, garages, local shops. So I still maintain that if a pub doesn’t survive, it probably wasn’t meant to. “It’s like people complaining that this should be a Christian country – well, none of you go to church. People want these things – like the church, the postman who knows your name, the pub – to be there because they reassure them. But, if you don’t use them, they’ll disappear,” he argues.
Continuing the religious comparison, May describes running a pub as a “proper calling, like being a priest”, and suggests that many of these businesses fail because the owners do not realise what’s involved: “It’s incredibly hard work, and the hours are anti-social.” He adds: “Pubs have to modernise, and the ones that move with the times survive. I don’t think the pub will disappear – there will be a continuing cull, but it won’t go altogether.”

Not a connoisseur

Although May is a self-professed beer drinker in pubs and a white wine drinker at home, it is actually his gin brand, James Gin, that has brought us together. “I like gin,” he reassures me. “I’m not a connoisseur, but I love a gin and tonic and drink a lot of them while on The Grand Tour trips.” Much of the gin he drinks on these international sojourns, he “steals” from co-presenter Richard Hammond. But it’s one thing to be an “enthusiast” about drinks – it’s another to set up a drinks business of your own. The root of May’s interest in being a gin brand owner, and not just a drinker, can be traced back more than a decade. “A lot of it goes back to when I did the wine show with Oz Clarke years ago. We did a British series, Oz and James Drink to Britain, in 2009, and went to Plymouth Gin and played at making a basic gin, and I thought it was really good fun – a lot of it tasted absolutely terrible, but occasionally out of the four or five we made, we got one that made us think ‘that’s not bad’.”

Gin venture

It was in 2021, during a gap between The Grand Tour specials, that May teamed up with Hugh Anderson of Downton Distillery in Wiltshire to make some gin to serve at The Royal Oak. Downton Distillery produced 1,000 litres of gin, or around 1,430 bottles – too much to sell entirely through The Royal Oak, so May turned to social media. “We thought it would be a good laugh and made a YouTube video about it, and it sold out within a few days, so we made some more and kept going,” he says. “There wasn’t really a plan.” The flavours in the James Gin range are certainly unusual – American mustard, petrichor (the smell of rainfall on hot earth) and the original, Asian parsnip. “The Asian parsnip idea was because I thought parsnips are very British, and everyone in Britain likes Asian food and spices, so I thought we would combine the two, almost like a parsnip curry side dish,” May says. “We fiddled around with it and did quite extensive tasting sessions, and I thought it was very interesting. A lot of gins just taste of lemon to me really – there’s not that much depth.”
Exotic botanicals: James Gin flavours include American mustard and Asian parsnip The follow-up flavours have also proved successes, often selling out within a day of each new batch’s release. Given the nature of ingredients used as botanicals – from beetroot to mustard seeds – you might assume that May, who hosts his own cookery show, Oh Cook!, for Amazon Prime and wrote a cookbook of the same name, would be excited about the gastronomic potential of the gins. However, he says that these are not spirits designed for food pairings: “We started making a video on it, but we decided it was bollocks, so we gave up. I don’t really drink gin with food.”

Small and honest

Despite the clear demand for his product, May does not harbour world-conquering ambitions for James Gin. “If Diageo turned up and said ‘here’s £10 million for the brand’, which is bugger-all in the drinks business, I’d be tempted, but I quite like the fact that it’s small and honest, and just a hobby,” he explains. Continuing his savvy use of social media, in May 2024 he established a YouTube channel, James May’s Planet Gin, dedicated to the brand. But some of his gin experiments turned out to be non-starters. “We’ve revisited it several times, so it’s fairly safe to say that it just doesn’t work,” May says of one idea, a gin flavour called Gasoline Dreams. “It was supposed to smell like freshly-pumped unleaded petrol, which has a slightly rotten mango quality to it. I thought we could make a gin that smells like it, so that everyone who is anti-electric car could say they had a petrol gin. “But the fact is that all the things that make petrol smell like petrol are lethally poisonous, and there are no real substitutes in the natural world. We added some Riesling concentrate, but it didn’t really work. We got to the point where it was a bit petrolly on the nose, but it was stale petrol, and it just wasn’t good enough – it didn’t have the nice, smooth, fruity quality.”

Branching out

May is also cautious about branching out into other spirits beyond gin. “We talked about it, because rum was becoming very trendy when we started, and we considered making a Scottish neutral spirit, so whisky before it becomes whisky, and we were going to call it ‘swisky’, but we decided that would push us beyond the point of a novelty enterprise,” he explains. “We didn’t think this through because we weren’t expecting it to turn into a business.”The fact that he had called the business ‘James Gin’ also meant “we would have had to call any subsequent products in the range ‘James Gin Whisky’ or ‘James Gin Vodka’ – and that would be very confusing.” As for breaking into the low and no alcohol category, May is sceptical of nonalcoholic gins, suggesting that they taste more like “cordial”, and comparing them to “a non-cheese cheese board”. “I’ve said it before that alcohol is God’s apology for making us self-aware, and if you take that away, there’s really no point in having a drink – you might as well have a cup of tea.”
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The Big Interview: Bruce Jack https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/05/the-big-interview-bruce-jack/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/05/the-big-interview-bruce-jack/#respond Wed, 08 May 2024 11:40:16 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=628827 One of the most charismatic figures in South African wine, Bruce Jack talks premium Pinotage, the upcoming political election and why we love a captain of industry "losing it all", with Sarah Neish.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/05/the-big-interview-bruce-jack/feed/ 0 One of the most charismatic figures in South African wine, Bruce Jack talks premium Pinotage, the upcoming political election and why we love a captain of industry "losing it all", with Sarah Neish. AT THE end of this month, 28 million South Africans on the electoral register are due to cast their votes for who will govern their country for the next five years. It could well be a watershed moment for the country’s wine industry, which has clung on like limpets to a shipwreck at the hands of current governing party the ANC for the last 30 years. In particular, three years of electricity blackouts across the country, caused by chronic underinvestment, have thrown a spanner in the works for winemakers, who rely on energy to irrigate vines, power their equipment and run their wineries. The sporadic power supply resulted in a 14.2% drop in yield for South Africa’s 2023 harvest. “The infrastructure has crumbled,” Siobhan Thompson, CEO, Wines of South Africa, told the drinks business in March. However, on 29 May South Africans will get to have their say at the ballot box. “I don’t think there will be a change of power,” says Bruce Jack, one of the nation’s most prominent winemakers, producing expressions from Swartland, Robertson, Breedekloof Valley and the Western Cape, among other regions. “I think that’s very unlikely. The ANC will lose votes, but retain power. But what’s exciting and invigorating is not the past, but how you build up from that.” The beauty of Bruce Jack is that he doesn’t hide behind the skirts of a PR, dance around questions or change the subject so fast that you end up with whiplash. Well-known in the trade for saying it exactly how it is, the business he has built is just as directional as its founder. “We believe in having fun, but we also believe in standing up for the underdog and doing the right thing,” reads a mission statement on the Bruce Jack Wines website. In the current political landscape, South Africa’s wine industry might just be that underdog. “Recently, the ruling ANC has not supported the wine industry,” Jack says. “Generally speaking, the South African wine business is white, male and Afrikaans-dominated – everything the ANC hates.” Yet despite this, Jack insists that the wine industry is the "shining star in a black hole." "It’s the biggest creator of jobs and the third-biggest contributor to South Africa’s GDP," he says. "We’re essential to the country's economy”. According to Jack, things are likely to get worse in South Africa before they get any better. “We haven’t bottomed out yet,” he tells db. However, the wine trade has been “inured to the chaos for so long” that producers are unlikely to be fazed, whichever way the needle swings in the election. Jack’s verbal shrug in response to the increasingly frequent blackouts – “they’re just another tax” – is a good example of that tenacity. “The blackouts mean that you have to buy and burn diesel to keep things running, so you’re paying more than you should,” he explains. “We’ve kept on producing wine; it just costs more and eats into your gross profits because it’s not a cost you can pass on to consumers.” Jack describes the plight of selling wine as similar to that of musical artists flogging their records in a time before TikTok and Spotify belched out trends like rampant bullfrogs. “If you imagine going into a Virgin Megastore in the 1990s, all the CDs were the same size, all displayed in their different sections – jazz, pop, rock, etc. The wine trade is similar,” he says. “We all sell the same-sized product and have the same amount of space on a bottle label to sell the story of that wine."
 

Strength to strength

Bruce Jack Wines was born in 2018 after Jack had already steered the winemaking ship for top brands, including Kumala on behalf of Constellation Brands South Africa, which became Accolade following the acquisition of an 80% share in the company by Australian equity group Champ in 2011. Now with four wine ranges hitting all price points, including Bruce Jack Lifestyle, Bruce Jack Reserve, Bruce Jack Heritage and The Drift Estate, not to mention a newly-opened rooftop bar called Jack@Skye in one of Cape Town’s hottest locations, the business is going from strength to strength. The elegant Drift Estate Ghost in the Machine Cabernet Franc (£17.99) recently bagged a Master medal in this year’s Global Cabernet Franc Masters competition, for its concentrated bramble, Christmas pudding and raspberry fruit flavours. A few years ago, Jack also established a presence in South America, with the first Bruce Jack Chile wines blended and bottled in 2019. The idea was to offer “an alternative origin for markets that are perhaps not so appreciative of South African wine”, he says. “Why fight to get into a market like China when the Chilean government has made a plan to negotiate better import tariffs?" he asks. Jack also admits he was tempted by the promise of making high-quality wine at what he calls “remarkably low cost”. “Chile is the only country in the world where you can make entry-level Pinot,” he says. “It’s essential to have even bud break and ripening with Pinot, and there is a very small window of opportunity for that to happen. If the grapes are overripe, you end up with wines that are soupy or jammy. If the grapes are underripe, the wines can be a bit green and stalky.” Does he prefer Bruce Jack’s South African or Chilean Pinot Noir? “I prefer the gross profits of my Chilean Pinot,” he says with a glint in his eye. Explaining his love for South African staple Pinotage (a crossing of Cinsault and Pinot Noir), Jack draws an unlikely parallel with Burgundy: “We love red Burgundy because one in 20 bottles will change your life, while most are pretty underwhelming,” he says. “It’s that one sublime bottle that keeps you searching through the disappointing sips. Pinotage is the same thing from that perspective. When it’s great, Pinotage can change your life.” He believes that the future of South African wine lies in producers making more complex wines at higher prices. Take Bruce Jack Wines’ There Are Still Mysteries Pinot Noir, for example, which retails in the UK via Hedonism for £68. It takes a certain mettle to place your wines in this price tier, but more producers are beginning to find that self-belief. The South African wine boat, says Jack, “is being rowed more and more by South Africans. We’re taking our industry into our own hands”. He highlights the fact that DGB, one of South Africa’s largest independent wine producers, has now set up offices in Europe and the US, as evidence of this.

Dingo dollar

Having worked as group winemaker for Australian wine giant Accolade, focusing on the Hardy’s brand from 2016 to 2018, Jack is well-placed to offer a perspective on the persistent whispers surrounding a possible merger between Accolade and Australian Vintage. “I would also be doing everything possible to save Hardy’s, because that’s the main asset to sell,” he says. “The brand commands shelf space in key markets, and that’s where the value lies. It has survived people who have not necessarily been committed to the wine industry, and it’s still firing because it’s such a great, strong brand that, despite having had different owners with different agendas over the years, it’s still a force to be reckoned with.” The drinks world is eager to watch the saga play out because “people love to see a car-crash”, he says wryly. “For many people there’s nothing better than a captain of industry losing it all. But if [a possible merger] brings solidity and stability to growers in Australia, which I believe it will do, then it has to be a good thing. I’m very fond of Australia; I made my first vintages there, and I also love that it has 24-hour electricity!” When we speak, Jack has just concluded what he describes as “a very cool deal” which will see an increase in production at the Black Oystercatcher winery in Elim, and enable “arguably the best Sauvignon Blanc producer in South Africa” to start exporting for the first time. He is also busy arranging for a handful of exciting new varieties to be imported into South Africa, including “the beguiling and mysterious Antão Vaz from Alentejo”. Not one to put his feet up, Jack has additionally partnered with the US arm of Rioja’s Bodegas Manzanos on “an ambitious import and distribution business”. Despite this full-throttle agenda, Jack insists that wealth isn’t what drives him. “Not being focused on becoming a billionaire is a big relief,” he says. “I pity the people who are. We have such a short life, and waking up alive every morning is pretty exciting.”
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The Big Interview: Linda Reiff https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-linda-reiff/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-linda-reiff/#respond Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:11:46 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=577375 For almost 30 years, Linda Reiff has guided Napa Valley Vintners to becoming one of the world’s most revered wine bodies, even though recently it has sometimes been a trial by fire, writes Roger Morris.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-linda-reiff/feed/ 0 For almost 30 years, Linda Reiff has guided Napa Valley Vintners to becoming one of the world’s most revered wine bodies, even though recently it has sometimes been a trial by fire, writes Roger Morris. IT’S A bottom line that would make any business leader proud – with only 4% of total annual production, Napa Valley winegrowers today provide 30% of California’s wine income with a retail value of US$45.6 billion (US$36.5bn). In the process of achieving this they have made the Napa Valley brand one of the most revered and most recognised wine regions in the world, one that is especially well-regarded for its Cabernet Sauvignons. For Linda Reiff, president and CEO of California’s Napa Valley Vintners (NVV), this record of success is especially gratifying because it has largely been attained and solidified on her watch. Initially given the title of executive director when she was hired in 1995, Reiff has seen the voluntary, non-profit organisation of 540 wineries – all but 1% of the valley’s total number – grow exponentially in what it provides its members and community. “We have the people, the place and the product,” Reiff says, “but I’m most proud of what we offer to our members, and to Napa Valley. We have a stellar group of colleagues and vintner leaders.” The organisation is especially known for its charitable largesse in good times – since 1981 more than US$225 million has been invested, primarily in the community’s healthcare initiatives and in childhood education – and its resiliency in bad times, bouncing back from devastating wildfires in 2017 and 2020 when some members lost entire crops, and others lost their wineries and vineyards in devastating fashion. In person, the elegant, flaxen-haired Reiff appears both reflective and enthusiastic at the same time, perhaps indicative of her years of experience in the agriculture business, news media, and state and federal government before joining NVV.

LIFE ON THE FARM

Reiff began her career helping out on the family farm in Yolo County, next door to Napa Valley. “My dad was a fifth-generation farmer,” Reiff says, noting that wine grapes were one of the crops her family grew, and that the farm “is now in its seventh generation.” She moved south to the state’s Central Coast to study agricultural journalism at California Polytechnic at San Luis Obispo, and after graduation became a writer specialising in farming news. “I worked for the Daily Democrat in Sacramento and the San Luis Obispo Telegram-Tribune covering agriculture,” Reiff says. Her agricultural background led her to be recruited to the staff of California Congressman and national Democrat party leader Vic Fazio. During the eight years she worked for Fazio, Reiff was gradually promoted until she became his chief of staff in Washington, DC. “I was recruited for the Napa Valley Vintners position through a San Francisco headhunter,” she says, and for the first time took up residence there. Reiff also met her husband in Napa Valley, Richard Ward, the gregarious co-founder and managing partner for Saintsbury winery in the Carneros region. Ward died of cancer in 2017 when he was 67. Reiff remains a partner in the winery. Her experience proved to be just what the wine industry in Napa Valley needed to move up to the next level. Although residents had been making wine since the 19thcentury, their work was interrupted for 13 years during national Prohibition. When winemaking restarted in 1933, wine grapes were only one crop in what at the time was Napa Valley’s poly-agricultural profile. While it began earning international recognition during the 1970s, in large part through Steven Spurrier ’s Judgment of Paris competition in 1976, Napa Valley winegrowing during the goldrush years of the 1980s was somewhat akin to an emerging teenage rock star – lots of ebullience but somewhat lacking in discipline. Reiff’s organisational skills and leadership style helped consolidate its position as an adult leader in the international wine arena.
“When I began, we had no education programmes, and now we have over 50, including training,” Reiff says. “We had only three marketing programmes a year, and now we have more than 100. I’m proud of the depth and breadth of what we have to offer.” Today, NVV’s agenda is wide-reaching – community social programmes that address education, healthcare and diversity needs, broadened sustainability practices, protection of the Napa Valley brand, the expansion of international markets, leadership training, as well as one item that addresses the region’s very survival – wildfire abatement.
Celebration: Napa Valley Vintners members mark the harvest As with recently fire-plagued wine regions in France, Australia, Spain, and elsewhere, the valley’s trial by fire was witnessed internationally on TV and social media, causing many observers to question whether the narrow valley surrounded by mountain forests could successfully adapt to survive future fire disasters. Reiff is confident it can. “We’re deeply involved through our fire-protection and mitigation committee,” Reiff says, highlighting two areas – removing as much flammable underbrush as possible, and by taking the lead in fire-detection- and response technology. “We paid for rapid-detection devices throughout the county,” she says, and NVV has also lobbied for federal funding. Recently, it met with major insurers to maintain affordable ongoing coverage for the community.

FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES

The fires also helped force NVV to reengineer its fundraising activities after Meadowood, the popular venue for its Auction Napa Valley, was destroyed. Almost without missing a beat, the vintners established a new event, Collective Napa Valley, which features a barrel auction, dinners and educational programmes. The US$225m that NVV has raised over the years has funded ongoing programmes for farm-workers. “We’ve been instrumental in the success of OLE Health, which provides discounted or even free healthcare whether or not the person is a US citizen,” Reiff says, “and have provided it with more than US$60m in funding.” That includes US$17m for a new facility in 2022. On the business side, Reiff has focused on two areas – brand protection, and establishing a higher profile in the international arena. “We want to continue to make the Napa Valley name mean something,” she says, “so we are both on the offence and the defence.” Domestically that has meant going to the country’s highest court to protect the Napa Valley name from those who have attempted to steal it or weaken its requirements for labelling. “Internationally, in 2005 we co-founded the Wine Origins Alliance, which now has 33 [regional appellation] members to help protect each other ’s names,” Reiff says. “For Napa Valley to be credible, we have to work hard in the US to phase out historical usage of other regions’ names.” Recently, NVV successfully negotiated an agreement with Vietnam for Napa brand protection in that market. Even though Napa Valley’s production is small, and a high percentage of its wines are sold directly to consumers at the winery or online, Reiff is adamant that a strong international presence is critical. “We need to work to maintain access to all sales channels,” she says. “As an example, in the past two years we’ve been working to get our members represented on La Place de Bordeaux. We’ve met with négociants and courtiers in Bordeaux and hosted them here in Napa.”
Mist chances: Napa’s climate makes organic farming easier than in many regions Reiff also notes that the NVV has international marketing programmes in Canada, the UK, Hong Kong, and Japan. While winegrowers internationally have in recent years invested time and money into group and individual sustainability measures, Napa Valley has long implemented programmes that other regions are only now contemplating. Warm weather and a lack of moisture has made organic farming easier than in most temperate climates, and in 1968 the valley’s environmental pioneers implemented the first agricultural preserve in the US, which today protects more than 12,950 hectares of farmland from development and urban sprawl. Fortunately, there are some issues that are major concerns for other glamorous wine regions that Reiff says don’t concern her – rampant tourism, a dearth of entry-level wines, and the need to increase production. “So far, I don’t see over-tourism as a concern,” she says, even though three million people visit Napa annually. This is, in part, because wineries are restricted in the kinds of hospitality they can offer visitors. Additionally, in recent years, many wineries have established individual or joint tasting rooms in Napa city and other towns, allowing visitors who want to taste but not necessarily visit to stay in one place. Burgundy has famously worried about not having enough lower-priced entry-level wines to maintain its fan base, but Reiff believes there already exist many great-value Napa Valley expressions in the US$30-to-US$40 range. Left unsaid is that limited production helps dim worries about having excess capacity at the top. That brings up the issue of growth, or the lack of it. Unlike in the equities markets, where corporate sales growth is often prized more highly than the quality of earnings, Napa Valley doesn’t face those investor pressures. “Our physical room for growth is pretty limited,” Reiff says. “Fortunately we have some of the strictest environmental rules of any wine region in the world.” That limits the temptation to produce on marginal land or environmentally endangered hillsides.

LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT

However, one issue that has captured Reiff’s attention is fostering a diverse development plan that will continue Napa Valley’s story well into the mid-century. “Leadership is one of our core values,” she says, and, unlike many trade organisations around the world, NVV membership regularly works hand in hand with Reiff’s staff of 20 people. “Two years ago, we started a leadership programme to help develop the next generation of leaders, who will shape the future of Napa Valley,” Reiff says, “and we are presently in our third cohort.” The text of a letter she wrote to NVV’s members about launching the scheme reads in part: “This is a unique, tailormade initiative in the world of wine, designed for driven professionals with a desire to grow and contribute to the greater wine community. The nine-month programme will include in-person sessions, inspirational speakers, thoughtful conversation, educational assignments and group projects.” That attitude is another thing that sets Reiff apart from many successful business leaders who, like her, also run first-class organisations. In their cocoon of success, and perhaps with a degree of hubris, they often forget that the best leaders ensure the future success of the organisation by readying the next generation. But, as Napa Valley winegrowers have known for more than 25 years, Linda Reiff has been no ordinary leader.
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The Big Interview: Rémi Vervier https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-remi-vervier/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-remi-vervier/#respond Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:00:12 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=585975 As well as being the managing director of Champagne Palmer, Rémi Vervier is also the house’s oenologist. He tells Richard Woodard about the brand’s exacting standards, and its holistic philosophy

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-remi-vervier/feed/ 0 As well as being the managing director of Champagne Palmer, Rémi Vervier is also the house’s oenologist. He tells Richard Woodard about the brand’s exacting standards, and its holistic philosophy. MID JULY in Champagne is a time of waiting. Waiting for the quality of the growing season to show itself, yet more waiting for the year ’s maximum permitted yields to be set. It’s a tense time for winemakers and company executives. So what is it like for Champagne Palmer & Co’s Rémi Vervier, who, unusually, fulfils the dual roles of managing director and oenologist for the house? “Actually, this year is looking good,” he says with a remarkably relaxed smile. “There’s low disease pressure, and very good conditions. The volume is there also – it’s quite high. We’re crossing our fingers.” Production is always a hot topic in Champagne, but recent years have seen the temperature of the debate sizzle, thanks to 2020’s artificially low yield limit – a response to the devastating impact on sales thanks to Covid-19 – and the climatically awful 2021. There was widespread relief at 2022’s bountiful crop, but many houses have faced supply shortages in the face of stronger-than-expected global demand. “When we look to the past, for sure you have this level of the crop that follows the direction of the sales,” says Vervier. “It’s gone maybe too much in one direction, then the other way. It’s better to have something closer to the average for viticulture. But it’s a very clever system to manage production. To my knowledge, we’re the only region in the world to be doing this, and I think that’s smart.” It is smarter still this year, he believes, given that growers will be allowed to increase the maximum level of their personal reserve from 8,000 kilogrammes per hectare (kg/ha) to 10,000kg/ha – a reaction to the unpredictable character of recent climate-change-affected harvests. “That’s a good thing, because we think we will have a good harvest, so increasing the reserve at the moment where the quality is there is very good for every single producer,” says Vervier. “I really think that’s how it should be, although it costs a lot more to have so much more volume – and you have to have the vats for that.”

GROWTH STRATEGY

That’s not an issue for Champagne Palmer, because of the growth strategy that the business – a quality-focused cooperative founded by seven Montagne de Reims grower families in 1947 – has been pursuing in the recent past. “The Palmer brand has been developing over the past 10 years,” explains Vervier. “We have a trend of 10%-plus growth per year in volume terms – so we have planned this. We are a little bit safer than the others because we are not in cruise-control mode, we are in the mode of growth.” When Palmer did face shortages of some higher-end products about 18 months ago – Blanc de Blancs, vintages, Grands Terroirs – Vervier took firm action. “The key is not really the quantities of the bottles, but the time of disgorgement,” he says. “If we go faster, we lose the promise we have made to the customer of waiting six months after disgorgement. That is not the promise we have for the consumer.” In other words, it’s better to sacrifice short-term volume for the sake of long-term reputation. Through the peaks and troughs of demand and production, the Palmer strategy has remained consistent. The company sells 1m bottles a year, and Vervier would like to double that figure by about 2030, but without changing the quality parameters: four years on the lees for the core brut expression, longer for the higher-end cuvées. “I have to imagine the sales at a minimum of five to seven years from now,” he says. “That’s why I have my crystal ball on my desk.” That crystal ball is focused on four key growth markets: the UK, the US, Japan, and France. Palmer is also strong in the Nordic countries, but Vervier sees less growth potential there. In the UK, the company is distributed by C&C Group (Bibendum, Matthew Clark, Walker & Wodehouse), with a strong emphasis on restaurants and wine shops, plus a high-profile listing with Waitrose.
Rock stars: bottles of Champagne maturing in the cellar Five years ago Palmer had no presence in Japan but, thanks to good distribution, and the market’s belated post-Covid bounce-back, Vervier is bullish about the prospects here. “Now we are moving forward into the next level,” he says. “It has taken more time to recover, but now it’s dynamic again.” One quality shared by all of these markets is the high degree of competition in the Champagne market. How does a relatively low-profile brand like Palmer stand out from the crowd? Vervier starts with his own role. “Not a lot of Champagne companies have their CEO totally involved in the winemaking process,” he says. “It shows that this company is focused on the elaboration of great wines.” Then there is the Palmer vineyard footprint, largely concentrated around the grands and premiers crus of the Montagne de Reims (supplemented by fruit from the Côte de Sézanne, the Côte des Bar, and the Marne Valley). “The impact of the Montagne de Reims is so strong,” explains Vervier. “The wines are really the expression of the Pinot Noir of the north face of the Montagne de Reims and the Chardonnay coming from the east face of the Montagne de Reims.” For a region that focuses so strongly on the Côte des Blancs as a source of fine Chardonnay, this is a clear distinction, with quality crus such as Trépail and Villers-Marmery offering elegance and purity in Palmer ’s Blanc de Blancs, alongside a smaller proportion (about 15%) of fruit-forward Sézanne wines. “The style is really Montagne de Reims-oriented,” says Vervier. “That’s a great, great asset. It’s a point of difference. It makes the Blanc de Blancs of Palmer naturally stand out from the crowd. It’s a real plus for a small brand like us, having this for the wine. We can do a vertical of Blanc de Blancs at 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years old.”

A VALUABLE LESSON

The ultimate expression of Palmer ’s Montagne de Reims signature is Grands Terroirs, a top-end vintage wine launched in 2019 with 2003, which taught Vervier and his colleagues a valuable lesson. “When we were ready to launch, the wine was totally closed,” he recalls. “It was a complete surprise. So we waited.” Three years later, the wine finally came around.
A waiting game: patience paid off for the 2015 Grands Terroirs “We’re currently on the 2015 vintage, but I don’t know what will be the next,” Vervier admits. “We bottled 2018 in vintage, 2019 in vintage, and 2020 in vintage – but I don’t know yet which or how many of them will receive the Grands Terroirs label. We might be pretty sure it’s good, but how good? Is it exceptional or just very good? We have to wait a minimum of five to six years to make the decision.” Another Palmer signature is sustainability. More than 90% of the company’s vineyards are already certified HVE3 (high environmental value) and VDC (Viticulture Durable en Champagne), and the rest should follow by the 2024 harvest (“Each last point will be difficult to achieve because it’s very tiny plots,” observes Vervier). That process has taken close to a decade to complete, but three to four years ago, the company broadened its sustainability policies, moving beyond the vineyard to a more holistic philosophy encompassing every aspect of production, the people, and the way the business is run. “I like the global approach of this,” says Vervier. “It’s about the environment, the people, how you handle everything in your company to stay sustainable. It means thinking about how you can still exist in 10 years from now and trying to be in good health. But the end result is never achieved – it’s an ongoing process.” Earlier this year, Palmer achieved double ISO 14001 certification and a CSR Commitment label, assessed by certification body AFNOR, and in June it became one of the first Champagne producers to gain the status of a “mission-driven company” – effectively a legal and corporate commitment to pursuing social and environmental objectives. “When you change your status in this way, it’s not for fun that we do that,” says Vervier. “It’s an obligation, it’s in the heart of the company, and it will go over to the people who will manage the company in the future. It’s not for fun or for business or for marketing, it’s what we think.”

INCREASING COSTS

Sustainability comes in many forms: environmental, social – and of course commercial. As Champagne faces ever-increasing costs for everything from grapes to bottles to energy to packaging, nobody is immune to these pressures. “The price of the grapes is finally the same for all the producers,” says Vervier. “I would even say a little bit worse for us because we have more than 50% in production in premiers and grands crus. “We have to face that, and we definitely have to increase the final price for the consumer. In 2023, the grape price will continue to increase, and we just hope that the consumer will be OK to pay for his or her bottle of Champagne with this price rise. “But we are lucky because we have the grapes, we have room to grow, and we have to just think how to do it in the proper way. It’s about quality of production, quality of business relationships, quality of distribution – that’s so important in terms of the future and the consistency of the brand.”
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The Big Interview: David Jesudason https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-david-jesudason/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-david-jesudason/#respond Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:06:47 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=624023 Author, journalist and the first BAME winner of Beer Writer of the Year, David Jesudason tells Jessica Mason how desi pubs can teach us so much about community and inclusion

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/04/the-big-interview-david-jesudason/feed/ 0 Author, journalist and the first BAME winner of Beer Writer of the Year, David Jesudason tells Jessica Mason how desi pubs can teach us so much about community and inclusion. Walking back from primary school as a small child while having racist insults hurled at him was only a fraction of the trauma that David Jesudason has endured. The painful moments are crystalised in his memory and, as he sits in The Gladstone Arms pub in Borough, London, and sips his beer, he explains that being Asian in the predominantly white areas of Luton and Dunstable meant that he was often racially profiled. He says this led to him “learning” to soften his approach, knowing that he was always being appraised; something he admits upsets him to this day, despite knowing he is doing it. “Primary school was hugely traumatic,” he says. “My mum was a nurse and she used to work nights, which meant that I was walking back from school aged six by myself, and kids were calling me names all the way home. It was like I was an alien to them. They couldn’t really understand someone being different to their whiteness. I went home and I told my mum, and she just said: ‘That didn’t happen,’ and that was it. After that, I realised that I really couldn’t tell her about racism.” Later in life, Jesudason found that the people he considered his mates still used “racist terms” and laments: “I thought that I had to put up with racism to be friends with people, basically.” After finishing his A-Levels, Jesudason chose Brunel University over an offer from Cambridge, which he says “in hindsight was a really good decision, because there were a lot of Asian people there and that was my first exposure to diversity across races”. The first pubs where Jesudason felt at home were pubs where live music was played. The indie music scene was just getting going, and he fondly remembers The Bird in Hand in Dunstable, “a biker ’s pub” that he used to visit. “It was the age of Britpop and that music is always caught up in the idea of freedom for me,” he says, admitting that without that music, he found navigating pubs “very difficult”. Jesudason highlights how racism and trauma often go hand-in-hand because racist attacks never stop weighing on someone once they have experienced them. The confusion and hurt over those experiences has had a knock-on effect. One of the most common ways in which Jesudason has experienced racism is through racial profiling in pubs. It’s one of the reasons why he wrote the book Desi Pubs; to show people that safe spaces exist within pubs and to reflect community values that, hopefully, everyone can appreciate and enjoy. “I’ve always been obsessed with pubs,” he says. “It’s a love/hate relationship in some ways. Just this week I went to a pub and, when I walked in, the guy was so sceptical, to the point of being hostile. Then, after I’d had a few beers and a chat, he was the loveliest person in the world. But he profiled me as soon as I walked in, and this happens to me because they are sizing up who is going to be trouble. “It just so happens that everyone has an unconscious bias and you’ll be more heavily profiled if you’re a person of colour.” As a result, he becomes “a softened version of myself; overly respectful. It takes more energy than I want to give on a daily basis to people. It makes you want to take singular action for the collective”.
Describing his book, Jesudason makes it clear that “it’s not about food or drink. It’s about Asians reclaiming spaces and making them anti-racist ones". He explains: “The places that really flick the switch for me are those places where you might look at the exterior and go: ‘Oh my God, what kind of pub is this?’ And then you go inside and your subconscious prejudices are completely inverted, because it’s really diverse, and there are lots of different people there, and it has a real community feel to it.” A common factor in desi pubs is, of course, the Asian food served to their clientele, but he reiterates how this is not the primary discovery people will uncover. “The food is great. But, for me, it’s not about the food, it never has been. I don’t review the food. Just the raw DNA. I’m more interested in social cohesion.” The idea behind the desi pub was to change the default of “the white custodian” and, in doing so, Jesudason reveals that, after a while, people “realise that these aren’t brown spaces at all, they are spaces for everyone”. The issue of inclusion within a pub setting is something Jesudason believes is taken for granted by many white patrons. “The thing is, white people don’t ever really feel like they are tourists,” he says. For these reasons, among others, he feels passionately about helping to shine a light on anti-racist spaces. To amplify how well-knitted these pubs are within communities, Jesudason beckons over Gladstone Arms managing director Gaurav Khanna to talk through the Sikh meaning of sevadar. As Jesudason says: “For some pubs, the desis came in and made it a community space. Because many of them were previously train drivers, factory staff or would work in car parks, they worked really hard to save money to get the pub, and they really wanted to be a publican because it fits in with being a Sikh.” The term sevadar, he explains, means selfless service and helping others, “and running pubs is one way of doing this”. In fact, sevadar fits the profile of “what we think a good landlord is”, Jesudason adds. Gaurav Khanna explains that a similar term 'sewa' is also "all about offering and giving". Frequently, desi pubs in the Midlands will give away food to homeless people, which fits in with this understanding. Jesudason describes one desi pub in Bradford that has a church inside, and holds a Christian service every other week, despite the proprietor being Hindu. “They rent it out,” he says. “They also do things like curry and carols at Christmas. For them it is a community thing, and the community comes first.” For The Gladstone Arms, community has also made good business sense. Speaking about the impact Jesudason’s writing has had on the pub and its popularity, Khanna admits that “the Desi Pubs book has definitely led to a big boost in business here. Different kinds of people are now visiting the pub. It has 100% had an impact on our clientele. Then, also because of the book, Time Out came in here too, which gave us a bit more visibility. The book has created more awareness around our pub – and all desi pubs. We like to converse here and talk to people about life experiences. That’s what being a public house is. More people are now coming in just for the chats. In this place, we celebrate each and every different type of person. We celebrate life.” Speaking to Jesudason in a space where so many people feel warmly welcomed and accepted makes you feel like the UK has made some progress. However, as Jesudason says, it is not the case everywhere, unfortunately, and there is still work to be done to move things forwards so that the term ‘public house’ can go back to meaning just that: a place where everyone feels at home. This shines a light on the fact that inclusivity and diversity are not the same thing. The pub industry needs to get better at reflecting diversity, but that alone is not the path to inclusion – and cannot in isolation help to encourage antiracist attitudes. Jesudason argues that “box-ticking and diversity for diversity’s sake is really damaging. Because what happens is, if you get employed in a job for not being who you are, but what you are, then you feel really insecure. Especially if you are only being employed because of the colour of your skin.” Instead, he says, what the industry needs to do is ”read more books, or watch TV that has greater diversity”, because identifying as BAME doesn’t mean you’re “asking people to go and listen to African jazz or sitar music”. He picks out Star Trek as a good example. “It’s probably the most inclusive programme you could ever watch that has been created by a white person. I suppose someone might say: ‘I don't like sci-fi’ but, fundamentally, it’s about how to get along with others. After watching Deep Space Nine, Jesudason advises starting to think about how to engage the community, “because there’s no point in saying: ‘Ok, we’re going to employ a black person in our pub.’ You need to find a way of reaching more black people, or Asian people or women or gay people in order to get them to apply for the job.” Why should pubs and drinks companies fight for that inclusion? “Because it means more markets and products. If you do it properly and truthfully, then more people might buy different beers, that’s why,” he says. Nothing will mend the racial trauma that Jesudason has experienced but, over time, as people become more educated about how to better celebrate our differences, the needle should start to move in the right direction. There are many ways that people from different cultures and backgrounds can help to broaden their perspective. And, if they do, there is more chance of the drinks industry moving forwards with an understanding of safety, inclusion and appreciation for all. “My kids will have a much better life than I had,” says Jesudason. “Because a life marred by racism is a life marred by anger. It’s a big deal to find a pub that is accepting, and where you can celebrate being yourself.”
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The Big Interview: Katherine Jenkins https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/03/big-interview-katherine-jenkins/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/03/big-interview-katherine-jenkins/#respond Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:14:34 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=599489 Mezzo-soprano Katherine Jenkins OBE tells Sarah Neish why her ultra-premium Welsh gin Cygnet 22 is worth singing about

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/03/big-interview-katherine-jenkins/feed/ 0 Mezzo-soprano Katherine Jenkins OBE tells Sarah Neish why her ultra-premium Welsh gin Cygnet 22 is worth singing about. When wecatch up, Katherine Jenkins OBE is in Chiswick, London, about to head into a studio to record songs for BBC television show Songs of Praise. Due to that plague of the modern age, the Zoom malfunction, we’re required to swiftly pivot to carry out the interview by WhatsApp audio, but the last-minute change barely rattles the classical singer. In fact, agile communication has been a key spoke in the wheel in bringing to life her ultra-premium gin, Cygnet 22. Having launched the spirit in June 2023, selling out twice within five weeks, Jenkins says there continues to be “a lot of back and forth” between herself, Cygnet 22 co-founder and film-maker Andrew Levitas, to whom she happens to be married, and the distillers. “I’ve come into every aspect of crafting this gin with an artist’s mind, and I have the same kind of interactions with the distilling team as I have with songwriters,” Jenkins says. “We get together multiple times a week, either in person or on Zoom if I’m on tour, to talk about Cygnet. Releasing a drink is a completely new thing for me, so I’m very happy and excited to have their expertise and guidance.” Led by female master distiller Aster Sadler, the all-Welsh distillation team is based at the Cygnet distillery in Swansea, only six miles down the road from Jenkins’ mother ’s house. Aster and her husband Chris, formerly of Sadler’s Brewing Co., set about determining exactly what would make Cygnet 22 stand out from the growing roster of ‘celebrity gins’, including Emma Watson’s Renais, Ryan Reynolds’ Aviation and Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s limited-edition Edinburgh Gin. What was non-negotiable, however, was the 300-litre copper pot still crafted by Germany’s renowned Arnold Holstein, with which they wanted to produce the spirit. “The first thing the Sadlers asked was: ‘How do we make this personal to you?’,” says Jenkins. “So we focused on things I use and love when choosing the botanicals for the gin. Manuka honey is something I’ve always used for my throat and voice because it has amazing antibacterial and antioxidant properties.” The combination of Manuka honey with super-pure Welsh water, along with the other botanicals featured in the blend including bee pollen, lemon balm, rose petals and white peppercorns, resulted in “a much softer liquid” compared with other gins on the market. The silky-smooth mouthfeel, which has fast become one of Cygnet 22’s unique selling points, opened Jenkins’ eyes to the wealth of possibilities that can be achieved through distillation. “I’ve really enjoyed the discipline of having to learn something so technical,” says Jenkins of the production process. “I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours learning how to sing, and I love to be immersed in learning, so I wanted the Sadlers to teach me.”

A sipping gin

It was during Jenkins’ education at The Royal Academy of Music that the idea of creating her own gin started to build like an impassioned aria, until it finally reached a crescendo this year. “When I came to London to study, the tutors talked to us a lot about the relationship between alcohol and the voice, and one of the things they pressed upon us was the notion of ‘clean alcohol’,” Jenkins says. “The cleaner a product is, and the fewer ingredients it contains, the less harmful it is to the voice.” Generally speaking, Jenkins explains, beers, wines and some mixers (“back in 1998 there wasn’t the diversity of mixers on the market that there is today”) tend to be “less clean” than spirits. Furthermore, “Champagne is better [for the vocal cords] than wine”, according to Jenkins, who was crowned the best-selling classical artist of the century by Classic FM, having sold a record-breaking 2.7 million albums. “While I was studying singing, I stopped drinking gin completely because we were advised to avoid the mixers that people tended to put with them,” Jenkins ruefully recalls. A kernel of an idea began to grow that, if she were to create “a quality gin, using the very best ingredients, one that you could sip neat and didn’t have to overdilute”, then she might be able to partake of a few bevvies again. “I wanted to drink something where I knew exactly what was going into it,” she explains. Having performed for Popes, Presidents and royal families, not to mention countless live, radio and television audiences over her 20-plus-year career, it's no surprise she wanted to protect her pipes. As such, her preferred way of drinking Cygnet 22 is “on the rocks, with a sprig of rosemary”, though Jenkins is also fired up following a recent mixology class showcasing cocktail recipes incorporating the gin. “We want to be inclusive of how anyone wants to enjoy it,” she explains.

Feathered symbol

Named after a baby swan, the feathered symbol of Swansea where the Cygnet distillery is based, the number 22 refers both to the number of botanicals included in the gin and to the age at which Jenkins signed what was then the biggest recording deal in classical music history. Her first recording contract in 2002 netted her £1m for a six-album tie-in with Universal. “I come to everything I do with a certain level of expectation, so with Cygnet 22 I knew I wanted to create a benchmark gin,” she says. “If you think about Don Julio 1942 Tequila, it’s miles away from the kind of Tequila that you might drink on a girls’ night out in Nice.” Is she trying to create the Don Julio 1942 of gins? “We want to be sold anywhere that embodies class, quality and elegance. That’s where I feel we sit as a brand,” Jenkins says. One might also add to that list anywhere that is quintessentially British. In its five months since launch, Cygnet 22 has already secured UK listings at John Lewis, Waitrose, Master of Malt and Harvey Nichols, with a suggested retail price of £47.50. On-trade stockists include Chiltern Firehouse, The Maine Mayfair, Searcy’s and The Portrait Restaurant at the National Portrait Gallery. “To be in places like that, which represent much-loved British brands, is a major achievement,” Jenkins says. “Great things are made in Wales and I naturally fly the flag for Welsh products.”
If she could see Cygnet 22 behind the bar of any venue in the world, where would it be? “We held part of our wedding at The Rosewood Hotel in London, so that’s a special place for Andrew and I. To walk into a place which has such a personal connection for you and to see Cygnet 22 on the back bar, it’s an exciting moment.” Jenkins adds that it would also be a dream to see her gin served on the rooftop bar of the five-star Marina Bay Sands Hotel in Singapore. “We’ve just been talking about the plans for Cygnet 22 in Asia. I’ve been performing in Japan for 20 years, so I’d also love to see it in the Japanese market,” she says. Does she think that a Welsh gin could be a tough sell in the Asian market? “No I don’t,” Jenkins says resolutely. “In my experience, Asia loves luxury and I think the quality of Cygnet will speak for itself.” While the Welsh connection is important to the singer, she doesn’t think it will “necessarily be a factor” in the consumer buying decision process. As well as launching Cygnet 22 in Asia, there are plans to roll it out across the US in 2024. “We’re just making sure we have the correct strategy in place,” Jenkins says carefully. “The aim is to work through the places where I have the most presence from travelling or touring.” Speaking of the US, her husband Andrew Levitas, known for directing critically-acclaimed films such as Lullaby, starring Amy Adams, and the Johnny-Depp-led Minamata, is a born-and-bred New Yorker, which will no doubt help open doors for Cygnet 22 in the Big Apple. What has it been like working together on the gin? “It’s actually been brilliant,” says Jenkins. “There are definitely moments when we might disagree on something, but the thing with Andrew is that he’s a sculptor, a painter, a film-maker, a writer, a professor at New York University… so his mind is very open to different ways of doing things. He’s also a really good motivator on the team in terms of bringing people together.” Jenkins says that the pair dedicate “a huge amount of time” to developing Cygnet and confides that she was taken aback by just how important the gin brand would become to them. “To be honest, we didn’t realise how passionately we’d feel about it. That’s been one of the most surprising things,” she says. The upshot is that the couple see Cygnet 22 as a long-term investment, and Jenkins hints at future product line expansion in the near future. “There will be an addition to the range within the next 12 months,” she says. This sense of longevity is reflected in everything from the recipes to the bottle design. On the latter, Jenkins worked closely with Eric Villency of Villency Design Group, whose back catalogue includes designing the frame for the original Peloton bike, as well as the interiors for luxury hospitality venues including the W Hotels and The Plaza.

Something beautiful

Describing the gin’s packaging with its swan-like, elegant bottle neck, Jenkins says: “I wanted to make something beautiful that would have a second or even a third life. Eric [Villency] is just brilliant and together we worked on creating something that would live on after you’ve enjoyed the last sip, whether as a single-stem flower vase or an oil-and-vinegar carafe. Upcycling was at the core of our design process.” Choosing to forgo a bottle label in favour of printing directly onto the glass was another big call. “Even the ink is organic, so when you put the bottle into hot water it will wash off easily,” says Jenkins. With green goals in mind, the team decided to opt for a lightweight bottle that weighs up to 50% less than the average spirits bottle, meaning less energy and raw materials are required in production and transportation. Rather unusually for a celebrity product, discretion was a must. “The minimal branding was deliberate,” says Jenkins. “It’s not about having an ego. It’s important that, with or without me, these products stand up on their own.” The accomplished singer, actress and charity ambassador has found a new home in the drinks world and hopes that Cygnet 22 will “bring people a moment of joy”. It helps that the distillery is located so close to her mum’s house. “She might be popping in regularly for quality control,” Jenkins laughs.

Katherine Jenkins at a glance

At 22, Jenkins signed a six-album deal with Universal worth £1 million, at the time the most lucrative contract for a classical artist. In 2020 radio station Classic FM announced Jenkins to be the best-selling classical artist of the century, beating the likes of Luciano Pavarotti. That same year, she made her film debut alongside Johnny Depp in Minamata and has also performed in the West End, in the likes of Carousel with the English National Opera. Jenkins has sung for the Royal Family many times, including at the late Queen Elizabeth II’s Platinum Jubilee. Following the death of HM The Queen, Jenkins was asked to sing the first recording of God Save the King. She was awarded an OBE in 2014 for her services to music and charity, and is a global patron of The Wilderness Foundation, as well as being a long-time ambassador for charity Macmillan Cancer Support and a trustee of the British Forces Foundation.
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The Big Interview: Sukhinder Singh https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/03/the-big-interview-sukhinder-singh/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/03/the-big-interview-sukhinder-singh/#respond Mon, 04 Mar 2024 12:51:03 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=618889 He may have sold retail business The Whisky Exchange, but Sukhinder Singh isn’t standing still, with not one but two distillery ventures to oversee. Lucy Shaw reports

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He may have sold retail business The Whisky Exchange, but Sukhinder Singh isn’t standing still, with not one but two distillery ventures to oversee. Lucy Shaw reports.

SUKHINDER SINGH isn’t a man to let the grass grow beneath his feet. Having sold The Whisky Exchange – the retail business he founded with his younger brother Rajbir in 1999 – to drinks giant Pernod Ricard in 2021 for an undisclosed sum, he’s currently putting the finishing touches to his Portintruan Distillery, just outside Port Ellen on Islay’s south coast. It’s six years since Singh submitted a planning application to build the distillery, and he’s hopeful that Portintruan will open to the public in spring 2025. Having bottled whiskies under his Elixir Distillers label for years – including the Port Askaig and Elements of Islay brands – Singh was keen to create a permanent home for his enterprise. As with many fledgling ventures, it’s been a bumpy ride, with water proving difficult to access, and building materials having to be sourced from the mainland, but things are starting to take shape – the roof is currently being completed and thoughts are turning to more enjoyable projects, such as interior design. A tourist magnet in the making, the distillery will include an expansive visitor centre with a shop, restaurant, educational facilities and a tasting lodge. “We’ve designed the distillery around the visitor experience, which was always a key consideration, as the space needed to function as a working distillery, but also have a good visitor flow so people can see what’s going on,” says Singh. “Distilleries were really small in the 1800s, with lots of outbuildings, and they have their charm, but there’s something special about making everything connect.” In terms of the style of whisky he wants to make there, Singh stresses the importance of carving out a signature style within the Islay framework. “Lagavulin is rich, oily and heavy, while Bowmore is medium-peated and fruity, and Ardbeg is heavily peated. We want to have our own style that plays into the peated Islay character,” he says, adding that Portintruan will be the first distillery on the island to make grain whisky.
Brothers in arms: Sukhinder (right) and Rajbir Singh co-founded The Whisky Exchange

BACK TO BASICS

While Singh welcomes experimentation within the Scotch category, he wants to take things back to basics at Portintruan and honour a simpler style of whisky he feels is all but lost. “Following The Macallan’s lead, whiskies are getting bigger, richer, heavier and more Sherried in style, so I think there’s a space for a lighter, cleaner, more elegant style of whisky to emerge – it’s a style I’m keen to bring back,” he says. Mindful of the venture’s carbon footprint, Singh is open to using Scottish oak casks – a sustainable practice being championed by Gregg Glass at Whyte & Mackay. “Scottish oak is quite tannic and spicy, and behaves differently to American and French oak, so the liquid would need a long time to mellow out, but it could work well as a blending component,” he says. “It will be interesting to see how Scottish oak fares after a long maturation, as I’ve only ever tried whiskies finished in it.” Singh’s obsession with Scotch started at a young age, when he was given a copy of Wallace Milroy’s Malt Whisky Almanac, which opened a door into an exciting new world ripe for exploration. He had the perfect playground to pursue his passion in the form of his parents’ off‐licence – The Nest in Hanwell, west London – where he helped out at weekends and during school holidays. Starting out with single malt miniatures, Singh now owns one of the most comprehensive private Scotch collections in the world, spanning more than 12,000 bottles.
The Whisky Exchange, Covent Garden Another marker in the sand came when Suntory approached TWE seeking a collaboration that might help Japanese whisky to make a splash in the UK. Singh stirred up interest by including Yamazaki 12 Year Old miniatures with select orders to showcase the whisky to top customers. Keen to expand outside the online realm, in 2006 Singh opened his first bricks-and-mortar shop at Vinopolis in London Bridge, which hosted tastings and masterclassses to push whisky education; a goal that eventually led to the founding of The Whisky Show. Launching with a punchy ticket price of £90, his idea of offering attendees the chance to taste rare, high-end drams turned out to be a winning formula, leading to the launch of a successful sister show in Edinburgh. Over a 22-year period, Singh and his brother became the golden boys of the whisky scene in the UK, growing their business to more than 230 employees, winning every industry gong going, and launching or acquiring successful spinoffs including spirits wholesaler Speciality Drinks, importer and distributor Speciality Brands, auction site Whisky.Auction, online magazine Scotchwhisky.com and consumer event London Cocktail Week – in addition to opening thriving shops in Covent Garden, Fitzrovia and, most recently, London Bridge, taking the retail arm back to where it started. Having been adamant that he would never sell up, in 2021 Singh was presented with “an offer I couldn’t refuse” from Pernod Ricard to acquire The Whisky Exchange website, its three shops and its sister businesses, save for Speciality Brands, which remains under his control. While difficult to let go of, the sale has freed him up to focus on his distillery projects. In addition to Portintruan, he and Rajbir own Tormore distillery on Speyside, which they acquired from Pernod Ricard in June 2022, giving them instant access to Speyside stock while they get their Islay venture off the ground. Tormore is headed up by ex-Macallan whisky maker Polly Logan, who has been busy tasting through thousands of casks with a view to launching a single malt under the Tormore name next year. Already known as an independent bottler under the Elixir Distillers brand, Singh is excited to give Tormore a new lease of life. “We’ve been assessing our inventory over the last year to better understand the quality, age profiles and different cask finishes of what we’ve got,” he says.
Elixir Distillers’ Elements of Islay

ENGLISH WHISKY

While Singh’s focus remains firmly fixed on Scotch, he isn’t ruling out the possibility of making English whisky in the future, and believes Scotch producers can’t afford to rest on their laurels, given the emergence of ambitious new distilleries everywhere from France and Sweden to Tasmania and Taiwan. Though he’s excited about the potential of English whisky, he feels distillers aren’t doing enough to capitalise on their current freedom from restrictive regulations in order to stand out from Scotch. “England and Scotland share a similar climate, so it’s very easy to make good whisky in the UK. The question is: should England be making whisky in the same way as Scotland or have a point of difference?” he asks. “There is no definition for English whisky right now – English whisky is literally Scotch. England is lucky as it operates outside of the strict rules governing Scotch, so distillers have more flexibility to do things differently. I don’t think anyone is really capitalising on that yet.” Experimenting with different cereals is a good place to start. “England is like the US in that you can use pretty much any cereal you can think of, from rye and corn to millet and oats,” says Singh. “English distillers should be using mixed mash bills to create unique expressions that stand out from Scotch. Mixing malt and rye works really well.” He also thinks English distilleries should borrow from Irish whiskey’s playbook and create the English equivalent of pot still whisky from a blend of malted and unmalted barley. The category is certainly one to watch. According to The English Whisky Guild, which was founded in 2022 to promote best practice within the industry, the volume of spirit produced by English distilleries is forecast to have grown by 189% between 2019 and 2024, with 50,000 maturing casks set to be in situ by the end of 2024, worth a total of £1 billion. While it will take time for English whisky to really flourish internationally, Singh has noticed a few leading labels popping up on back bars across the UK. “I have a lot of respect for the likes of the Cotswolds Distillery, Lakes Distillery, Spirit of Yorkshire, White Peak and The English Whisky Company, which are starting to develop a loyal local following,” he says, although he admits that it will be a while before we see English whisky making a splash on the secondary market. “First releases from distilleries are always superhot and collectable, but it’s still early days,” he says. “Bimber has done quite well on the secondary market, but is in the press for all the wrong reasons at the moment [following the arrest of its founder]. Its Spirit of the Underground series was genius, but it’s quite a packaging-led brand and you wonder how many people are actually opening these bottles and want to drink them.” As for the health of the Scotch market during these turbulent times, Singh doesn’t seem to be worried, considering the continued global thirst for top-end expressions. “Whisky has performed better than wine on the secondary market recently because there’s not so much of it to go round. There are just over 100 Scotch distilleries, and only a couple of dozen serious players,” he says. “The industry didn’t foresee what the future demand would be, and the current shortage of aged single malts has really helped the category. You can’t just turn on the tap – it takes time to produce these liquids.”
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The Big Interview: Nicola Bates https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/02/the-big-interview-nicola-bates/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2024/02/the-big-interview-nicola-bates/#respond Mon, 05 Feb 2024 11:13:00 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=614389 Nicola Bates, CEO of WineGB, talks to Sarah Neish about chaperoning the English wine industry into its third and arguably most critical stage.

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Nicola Bates, CEO of WineGB, tells Sarah Neish about chaperoning the English wine industry into its third and arguably most critical stage.

JUST TWO months after accepting the top brass role at WineGB, Nicola Bates took custody of a rambunctious cocker spaniel puppy, which she jokes has already “replaced her in the family”, as a result of Bates now spending the majority of her time “either on a train with a laptop, or waiting at train stations”. With more than 500 producer and grower members of WineGB spread across 32 English counties, 10 Welsh counties and two in Scotland, it’s little wonder Bates has become one of national rail’s best customers. Getting out to meet winemakers across the UK has been part of her “baptism of fire” as she beds into her new role at the top of the trade body. The switch-up came following the decision by former WineGB boss Simon Thorpe to step down from the CEO position last May to become the managing director of specialist importer Thorman Hunt. Thorpe had only headed up WineGB for three years, and his departure left members of the UK wine trade scratching their heads. London Wine Fair director Hannah Tovey told db at the time that “it was entirely critical” who the next person appointed to lead the English and Welsh wine body would be. “Clearly, with the rapid growth of English wine, we need to see a direct correlation when it comes to its marketing and brand development,” Tovey said following Thorpe’s departure. “Whoever is the very best at doing that should be the new head of WineGB.” The best person for the job, it transpired, had spent the last five years defining and upholding the highest standards for marketing alcoholic beverages as the director of strategy and external affairs for regulatory body The Portman Group. Bates is a breath of fresh air, not just in terms of offering a new perspective, but in encouraging members of the trade to confront outdated notions of what — indeed, who — the head of WineGB should be.
Not only is Bates the first female CEO of WineGB, she may also be the first chief exec to eschew advanced WSET qualifications in favour of strategy. She guiltily confesses that she gets excited by “management consultancy” and makes no bones about the fact that she has more to learn about wine. “Yes, I’ve got the glorious job at WineGB, but I have more than 500 bosses [producer members], and they all know much more about wine than I do,” Bates tells the drinks business. For many reasons, intricate wine knowledge was not the “first item on the list” for WineGB when recruiting the perfect candidate for the job. Instead, “understanding the political landscape” was paramount. “First and foremost on the list of priorities is influencing government,” Bates says. And, having spent a vast chunk of her career hosting roundtables and events “and really martialling evidence” to lobby government on policy, as well as having run for parliament herself in 2010, she is well-equipped to make sure English wine stays top of the agenda. According to Bates, there is “a huge amount of goodwill” at Westminster for English and Welsh wine. “The door is very much open to walk through, probably more so than in any other capacity I’ve worked in,” she says. However, rather than debating the merits of reintroducing pint-sized bottles of Champagne and sparkling wine (more on that later), she wants to solve real, tangible issues that impact “a wider percentage of our members”. Take broadband access, for example. No, really, take it. It’s terrible. “Many of our members are based in various different parts of a rural, agricultural economy,” Bates says. “And the number of times that our members’ internet crashes while they’re on a call is ludicrous.” She admits that she doesn’t yet know whether broadband access is “a number three problem on the list, or a number 30 problem”, but she intends to find out.
  Back to those pints of Champagne. In January, Bates issued a statement championing the government’s decision to permit the return of this imperial measure, a favourite of former Prime Minister Winston Churchill. She affirmed that WineGB welcomed “the chance to be able to harmonise still and sparkling bottle sizes” and asserted that the pint measure would allow “greater choice for UK producers within the domestic market”. Speaking to db, Bates stresses that the word doing the heavy lifting in that sentence is ‘choice’. “I don’t know of any English producers that are about to push the button on a pint-sized bottle, and it’s unclear how much of a market there would be for it. I suspect there might be some consumers out there who would love to celebrate at some point with a pint of sparkling wine. And, equally, there will be some producers who want to cater to them,” she says diplomatically. In fact, Bates is more concerned with the potential hurdles that could come with recycling pint-sized bottles. “If we do go ahead, we need to make sure that producers, and therefore consumers, aren’t being penalised, because costs will have to be reclaimed within a system,” she says, referring to the additional costs that might come with recycling a non-standard-sized glass bottle; extra fees which will inevitably end up being passed on to the consumer via a higher recommended retail price for that bottle. Whether or not consumers want to buy a pint of English sparkling is one matter, whether they are prepared to pay a premium for it is quite another.

The numbers game

Bates’ ability to plug into the numbers was WineGB’s second key consideration when searching for a new leader – it needed someone who could wrangle a budget. She intends to streamline funds at the trade body, starting with membership fees. “WineGB needs to provide the right services at the right price for its members, so that ultimately people feel they are paying for something useful,” she says. At present, Bates explains, there are “about 27 different ways of being a member”, with fees starting “at a couple of hundred pounds and going all the way up to five digits”, determined by the size of the producer, both in volume terms (how many annual bottles made) and hectarage planted. “The question is whether [the differing membership] is fair and appropriate,” she says meaningfully. She’s right to tighten the nuts and bolts ahead of what could prove to be the most transformational chapter yet for the English wine industry. At the time of her appointment, Bates pointed out that the English and Welsh wine sector “will soon face the challenges that come with its success”. So how does she plan to meet these challenges? Bates highlights the ‘s-curve’ of any growing market, which she says is made up of three stages. First comes the ‘pioneer ’ stage. In terms of English wine, this was “when we were growing an awful lot of German grapes”, she says. “You could say that it was anything up to [the establishment of] Nyetimber,” Bates adds, after which point the English wine industry entered its second phase –‘expansion’. “We’ve been going through this stage for some years,” Bates explains. As we hurtle through 2024, the English wine trade is moving into the last phase of the curve — “maturity”. This is loosely defined as a period in which “regulation becomes a more pressing concern, as do issues relating to reputation and protection”, Bates explains. It makes sense, then, that WineGB would pluck a leader from The Portman Group, whose very raison d’être is to safeguard industry standards. If one were to draw a Venn diagram between the two roles, the biggest crossover Bates has found so far relates to the conversation around creating a PDO for English wine. The discussion is all about “anticipating the need to define the quality of an English wine product”, she says. “My time at The Portman Group focused on what info a consumer takes away from looking at a bottle, or a can, or whatever. The idea of a PDO is actually quite close to this. Will consumers understand the phrase ‘PDO’ on a back label? And are we able to imbue a PDO with the right meaning and criteria that will stand the test of time? I don’t think UK consumers understand the term yet, but it’s critical that we get it right.”

Wine tourism

As well as supporting WineGB members from a marketing standpoint, Bates is keen to look at another area undergoing astronomical growth in the UK – wine tourism. She reveals that a free training programme for producers on the subject of wine tourism will launch “very soon”, in association with Visit England, based on a an earlier successful initiative implemented by Wine Australia. “The English wine industry has a huge advantage, having watched what the likes of Australia and New Zealand – and by that I mean markets that have matured in the last 20 or 30 years – have done, and looking and learning from their mistakes,” she says. “It means we should be able to run down the path to success an awful lot faster." Another vital concern is who, exactly, will be running those miles? According to WineGB’s latest industry report, there are currently around 2,300 employees working in English and Welsh wine. “By 2040 we anticipate this will be more like 30,000, which is a huge leap,” Bates says. “Who are these employees? Where are they going to come from?” It’s one of the reasons Bates is so keen to nurture WineGB’s relationship with Plumpton College, one of the key providers of wine education in the UK. “A big question we need to ask ourselves is ‘what do we need from education in order to mature the English wine market?’” she says. As for what English winemakers will be producing by the year 2040, the latest WineGB report shows that Chardonnay, Pinot Noir and Pinot Meunier currently account for around 70% of total plantings, with hybrid varieties making up 10%. “Our latest insights show that production is currently around two-thirds sparkling to one-third still wines,” Bates says, with still wine expected to increase further. She is especially excited by the future potential for still English Pinot Noir. “Because of the way Pinot Noir grows in this country, it has a different depth that transcends some of the more traditional Pinots from around the world,” Bates explains. When asked how likely it is that we might one day see an English Pinot Noir alongside global expressions of that noble variety on La Place de Bordeaux, Bates says with a twinkle in her eye: “Wouldn’t that be fantastic…?” Read db's interview with ex-WineGB boss Simon Thorpe here, where he discusses English wine being much more than "a one-trick pony" and the difficulty of buying land to plant vines in England.
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The Big Interview: J García Carrión’s Toni González https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/12/the-big-interview-toni-gonzalez/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/12/the-big-interview-toni-gonzalez/#respond Thu, 07 Dec 2023 07:00:35 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=606421 As Spain’s wine industry confronts climate chan ge, few are as well-p laced as J García Carrión’s Toni González to discuss potential solutions. Gabriel Stone reports.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/12/the-big-interview-toni-gonzalez/feed/ 0 As Spain’s wine industry confronts climate change, few are as well-placed as J García Carrión’s Toni González to discuss potential solutions. Gabriel Stone reports. There are times when it’s useful to have 33 harvests under your belt. Ask any winemaker and they’ll confirm that no two years are ever quite the same in this business, but 2023 certainly wasn’t the vintage to be a rookie oenologist in Southern Europe, let alone in Spain. As director of oenology for J García Carrión, a company that claims to be the largest wine producer in Europe and fourth-largest in the world, Toni González needed to draw on all his considerable experience to get through a very testing year. But 33 vintages don’t just bring expertise; they’re also a vital source of perspective. “I remember challenging harvests like 1995 or 1997, when there was a serious drought in Spain too,” González recalls. Indeed, he adds: “Those harvests were more challenging at the time, because I had less experience.” By contrast, despite the gloomy headlines – the International Organisation of Vine and Wine (OIV) anticipates that Spain’s 2023 harvest will be a hefty 19% down on the country’s five-year average – González remains strikingly sanguine. “It’s been OK this year,” he remarks. “Our wineries these days have better equipment to deal with any issues.” González’s responsibilities span the J García Carrión wineries that are dotted all over the country, from Rioja and Penedès to a joint venture in Rueda and, further south, production facilities in Valdepeñas, La Mancha and the company’s original base of Jumilla. None of these are small operations either. The Marqués de Carrión facility in Rioja Alavesa boasts a 50 million-bottle annual capacity, Los Llanos in Valdepeñas can produce up to 100m bottles per year, while Daimiel in La Mancha ramps up the volume still further with a potential annual output of 225m litres of wine – and that’s before you include the sizeable fruit juice operation there too. “This year has been especially bad in regions like Valencia, Jumilla and Catalunya, which was 25-30% down in volume,” reports González. Although there were other weather challenges to deal with in 2023, he confirms “serious drought” as the most influential factor. Even more concerning, observes González: “In some places like Catalunya it’s the second year [of drought] in a row.” By contrast, he assesses Castilla-La Mancha as “less bad”, while Rioja – the region that remains synonymous with Spanish wine for so many international consumers – was only “5-6% down”, according to González. What’s more, he observes that even this relatively modest shortfall “was mainly due to new regulations rather than the climate”. A recent amendment to Rioja’s regulations has made it, in the words of the DO, “compulsory for winery facilities to be dedicated exclusively to producing Rioja grapes and wine”. Quantity is one issue, but what about the quality of those grapes that did make it into the wineries? Again, González is well-placed to comment on what has evidently been a very mixed picture, depending on which corner of Spain you choose to look in. “Quality has been quite different depending on the regions,” he confirms. “It’s been very irregular.” If there is a discernible pattern, though, he suggests: “The heatwave has affected red wine especially. The vineyards haven’t matured properly; it’s impacted us more negatively than the whites.”
Meanwhile, Spain’s producers are braced for the prospect that such extremes of drought and heat will become a more regular challenge, and one that demands long-term solutions if viticulture is to remain commercially viable. When you consider that the vine is already one of very few plants able to thrive in conditions where wheat, tomatoes and other staple crops would certainly fail, it’s a challenge that has vital implications for livelihoods in these affected regions. “The winemakers and farmers are taking steps,” confirms González. Irrigation systems are one aspect under review, with growers trying to irrigate more efficiently; however, he suggests that they’re certainly not a panacea. “They can help to compensate for the lack of rain, but it’s still hard for vines to cope with the higher temperatures,” explains González. It is just as vital, he says, to look at “adapting the vineyard labour to the conservation of humidity”. On top of this comes the issue of varying irrigation rights across different Spanish regions, with some producers unable to access this option at all. “One alternative approach to irrigation is not to plough the soil in order to avoid breaking it up and causing more evaporation,” suggests González. “We have done trials in the past, but in this drought they have not been helping much. We need to do something bigger.”  
(Image: Drought conditions: Catalunya, home to Jaume Serra, saw little rain in 2023) In González’s view, salvation lies not so much in soil management as in decisions about which grape varieties to plant in the most affected regions. “The best solution is to plant the more local, drought-resistant grape varieties,” he argues. For González, there are two prime candidates for promotion. “Varieties like Monastrell or Tinto de Toro [Tempranillo] would be the most interesting to explore,” he says. “They can do well at higher temperatures and in drought.” However, while in 2022 the country’s Ministry for Agriculture, Fisheries and Nutrition announced that Tempranillo had leapfrogged Airén to become Spain’s most widely planted grape of all, by contrast Monastrell (aka Mourvèdre) is a variety on the decline. Some 28,443ha of Monastrell have been lost in Spain since 2000. Perhaps that needs to change. Although producers can – funds permitting – play an active role in making this transition to more suitable grape varieties, González stresses that they need greater support from the government and from regional bodies. “The DO must help on this front by allowing this cultivation to happen faster,” he argues. “In some areas you cannot change what’s planted as quickly.”

Stepping up support

One other area where González feels the state could make a positive impact is in stepping up support for research into hybrid grape varieties, developed to cope well in hot, dry conditions. The potential benefits of success in this field don’t just relate to yield, but will help to ensure that Spanish producers don’t lose out to countries that are currently better-placed to meet the growing demand for lower alcohol wines. “Some farmers are suggesting these hybrids would help them get lower-ABV wines,” observes González, who admits that “alcohol has been getting quite high”, despite all the modern winery techniques that he has at his disposal. Meanwhile, J García Carrión is using its considerable scale to forge ahead with independent research projects. Artificial Intelligence (AI) may be a newly hot topic for many, but the company has been running a project using AI in its Ribera del Duero vineyards for the last five years. “It’s given us a chance to measure the climate, to optimise all our systems, to improve aspects of our cultivation such as irrigation,” outlines González. “We’re starting to see good results.” In particular, he highlights the way “these algorithms and the weather forecasts carried out every year give us a chance to recommend best practices on the land”. Based on the intelligence gathered already, J García Carrión is already looking at how it can be applied to some of the regions most affected by climate change. “We’re trying to use the results of these studies in areas like Jumilla and Valdepeñas, where they can play a preventative role,” reports González. While the company clearly still sees its southern outposts as commercially viable – indeed commercially vital – arms of the business, it’s hardly surprising that much of the recent expansion focus has been on more northerly regions. Can expansion of vineyard areas in the north help to compensate for the challenges further south? “We do not expect Spain to become a smaller player in terms of wine production,” he says. “Viticulture is part of our way of life, and wine grapes will always be one of the priority crops in Spain. It is true, though, that growth in the wine regions located in the north of the peninsula will become more important as these are typically less affected by climate change.” In particular, González highlights “places like Castilla y León and Galicia, where production as a whole is growing, but we ourselves are also growing in these areas”. Within Castilla y León, the DOs of Ribera de Duero and Rueda have seen a notable investment in new vineyard planting by the J García Carrión group. Spain is not alone in facing the sort of challenges that vintages like 2023 have brought. Wineries of every shape and size all have their parts to play in finding sustainable solutions. However, as if the burden of responsibility for such a large proportion of his country’s grape harvest were not enough to bear, figureheads like Toni González are now front and centre to come up with crucial answers.
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The Big Interview: Laura Willoughby MBE https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/10/the-big-interview-laura-willoughby-mbe/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/10/the-big-interview-laura-willoughby-mbe/#respond Mon, 16 Oct 2023 09:55:00 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=595355 Laura Willoughby MBE isn’t one to do things by halves – unless we’re talking ABV, as Eloise Feilden finds out at no- and low-alcohol retailer Club Soda in London’s Covent Garden

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/10/the-big-interview-laura-willoughby-mbe/feed/ 0 Laura Willoughby MBE isn’t one to do things by halves – unless we’re talking ABV, as Eloise Feilden finds out at no- and low-alcohol retailer Club Soda in London’s Covent Garden. The Big Interview: Laura Willoughby MBE “I’M REALLY good at working really hard for no money,” quips Laura Willoughby MBE, former councillor and founder of no- and low-alcohol drinks specialist Club Soda. “It’s my speciality. That’s why I was in politics. Particularly Lib Dem: you work really hard to realise the speed humps around your ward have got more votes than you do.” Jokes aside, Willoughby’s past life in politics has left her surprisingly wellequipped for a second career as a retailer. Willoughby stood for Parliament twice as the Liberal Democrat candidate for Islington North in 2001 and 2005, competing against Labour ’s Jeremy Corbyn. She was awarded an MBE for services to the community in 2004, aged only 30; an achievement she’s “still wondering what to do with”, according to her LinkedIn page. Almost two decades later, and on a completely new career trajectory, she’s still using her skills in campaigning to kickstart the alcohol-free movement. “Club Soda is an equalities campaign at the bottom line, and I’ve been an equality campaigner since I was 14,” she says. Her first campaign was for a skateboard ramp in her local town (no, she admits, she has never been a skateboarder), and decades on she’s using her skills to bring the concept of ‘mindful drinking’ to the masses. Willoughby raised £30,000 to help launch Club Soda as a permanent independent retailer in 2022, following the success of its pop-up store in January of the same year. “I always said that we were never going to sell drinks, so I’m doing really well,” she says. Club Soda began life as a health tech business, assisting people interested in altering their drinking habits through behaviour change – the concept at the outset was to create “Weight Watchers, but with booze”, but has evolved since then. “I never thought I wanted to sell the drinks directly. I’m not a retailer, I’m not a bar owner. It completely scared me,” Willoughby says. “When we were setting up here, I told people we were creating a shop with some ‘drink-on space’ because I didn’t like to use the word ‘bar ’. That’s how much it frightened me.” Club Soda’s tasting room is not a typical bar, either. Only wines with an alcohol content of 0.5% or lower appear on the list, and for beers, the only brew with a higher ABV, Beavertown’s Nanobot Super Session IPA at 2.8%, is highlighted on the menu in pink. Club Soda’s bar also offers a range of “adult soft drinks”, from tonic water and ginger ale to a CBD-infused cream soda and a bottle of organic ginger-andchipotle soda. Willoughby is keen to drive perceptions of alcohol-free drinks far away from the concept of sitting in the corner of a pub slowly sipping on a glass of flat Coca-Cola. “We need nice tasty drinks instead of J2O or half a pint of Coke, because I’m not 12,” she says. “I always say when I go out: my money is as good as anyone else’s; why don’t you want it? I’m happy to spend as much money as people who drink – you just have to give me the things to spend the money on.” Willoughby characterises our current culture as an “experience economy”, explaining: “It’s why everywhere serves food now. Who would have thought there would be bars set up just to do axe throwing or clay pigeon shooting?”
Our social habits are changing, she says. “We want to be able to laugh and we want to be able to feel like it’s quality time, and that’s across all generations.” Having choices when it comes to drinking feeds directly into this. Online searches involving the word ‘mocktail’ are up 42%, according to research by Club Soda in collaboration with global market research business The Mix, suggesting that consumers are looking for ways to drink less without sacrificing experience. According to IWSR figures, no- and low-alcohol sales in the world’s 10 leading markets surpassed US$11bn in 2022, with volumes poised to grow at a CAGR of +7% between 2022 and 2026. As a relatively new player in what is a huge global industry, no and low is yet to fully find its feet in the alcohol sector. Framing itself as an ‘alternative’ to drinking inherently drives a wedge between the category and its alcoholic adversaries, but Willoughby is not one to shy away from conflict. “I would personally love to be a threat to everybody,” she says. “It’s quite a fun place to be.”
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Club Soda’s location on Drury Lane faces directly onto the Greene King pub in which Willoughby had her last alcoholic drink 11 years ago. “It’s very funny that we’ve ended up here,” she says, but all these years later she is unfazed by the pub’s presence. “I think they could improve their alcohol-free range. I tell Greene King that quite a lot,” she shrugs. But Willoughby is not motivated by conflict for conflict’s sake. Ultimately, the business is viable thanks to a shift in consumer behaviour. Non-alcoholic beer, wine and spirits made US$395m in US off-premise sales over the 52 weeks to 20 August 2022, up by one-fifth, according to the NielsenIQ Scan Off Premise Channels. Tee-totallers are only a small part of the story. Regular alcohol drinkers who are curious about the category, and looking to moderate, make up the majority of no- and lowalcohol sales. According to the IWSR Global No-and Low-Alcohol Strategic Study 2022, 82% of no and low buyers also regularly consume alcohol, typically alternating between non-alcoholic, lower-ABV and full-strength drinks during the same occasion. “Low’s time is yet to come,” Willoughby predicts. The low-alcohol offering in Club Soda remains a very small percentage, but the company’s founder is still keen to be part of the conversation around a category she believes is yet to have its time in the sun. “We have a small shelf of low-alcohol products, because we’re committed to the fact that mindful drinking is about what you drink when you are drinking just as much as when you’re not,” she says. “It’s the beginning of that part of the discussion, and there will be a time where we’ll see lower-ABV spirits and lower-ABV cocktails on menus, as well as more table beers around.”
What poses a challenge to the success of low-alcohol products is the “binary” attitude we have to drinking. “The consumer is either drinking or not drinking. Working out ABV is hard for bartenders, let alone the consumer.” Despite the challenges posed by no and low, brands are being urged to keep up with this burgeoning trend. “Either the alcohol industry needs to learn to adapt and realise that they’re very good at making, marketing and distributing drinks of all kinds, or they decide that their future is only in alcohol,” Willoughby says with some confidence. “Either of those may be possible, but the consumer is demanding something different.” The former politician’s goal is clear: “All I want is that, wherever alcohol is sold, there should be alcohol-free options that are just as good.” What is more, she’s willing to do almost anything to achieve this. “I’m happy to put myself out of business in the long run,” she laughs, putting her head in her hands. “My goal isn’t to create a chain of alcohol-free bars. In fact, it’s far from it. My aim is to have hundreds and hundreds of bars that have good alcohol-free options, so that everybody feels welcome in every single venue.” Club Soda is looking to expand into other UK cities, starting in Manchester in early 2024, following an investment round taking place now, with sights set on Birmingham, Bristol and Cardiff in due course. Willoughby is keen to work with local brands and expand the ‘mindful drinking’ movement, but commercial success is low on the list of her priorities. “I cannot tell you how much you can get done when it doesn’t matter who takes the credit, and when you bring people to collaborate together to make it all happen,” she says. “It’s a stupid way to run a business,” she acknowledges – in that giving advice to other retailers competing for sales tends to limit your own. “It’s why I’m poor,” she shrugs, smiling – evidence yet again of the heights Willoughby will go to in order to achieve her mission – “but that’s okay.”
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The Big Interview: Sebastián Labbé https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/09/the-big-interview-sebastian-labbe/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/09/the-big-interview-sebastian-labbe/#respond Mon, 11 Sep 2023 14:25:35 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=589719 Santa Rita’s winemaker, Sebastián Labbé, oversees the producer’s world-class Casa Real wine. Jessica Mason finds out how a surfer with a penchant for travel came to create one of the globe’s top expressions.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/09/the-big-interview-sebastian-labbe/feed/ 0 Santa Rita’s winemaker, Sebastián Labbé, oversees the producer’s world-class Casa Real wine. Jessica Mason finds out how a surfer with a penchant for travel came to create one of the globe’s top expressions. Sebastián Labbé became a part of Santa Rita Estates in 2005, taking over the winemaker role for its ultra-premium wines, including Casa Real, in 2017. Naturally, he was daunted, but, as he explains, experience and adventure are closely linked. And life is all about “timing and enjoyment”. So too, it seems, is the business of winemaking. “Initially, when finishing school, I knew for sure that I really wanted to do something where I enjoyed my day-today work,” says Labbé. “I’m very happy to have achieved that.” He describes how his travels initially took him to New Zealand and Australia, both trips changing his outlook, and teaching him a lot. “In New Zealand, I began working at a small restaurant. There, I met a sommelier, and he knew a lot about Chilean wines and the different areas where they’re made. We had a really good relationship because we were both keen on ocean sports, especially surfing. We began spending extra time together after shifts, just tasting wine and discussing it. At that time, wine was something that I enjoyed, but it wasn’t yet a big part of my life.” Later, Labbé “got a part-time job at Margrain Vineyard – asmall boutique winery in the Martinborough appellation in New Zealand’s North Island. This offered him “the opportunity to do pretty much a bit of everything”. Then he enrolled into a viticulture and oenology course at Lincoln University in Christchurch. It was then that Labbé came to realise that being a winemaker was “a fantastic and magical job, where you could work on the agriculture side, then be like God and transform all of that into wine by doing all of the technical and incredibly scientific things in the lab”. Travelling and learning felt like part of the role. He explains: “When I went to Australia, I went to Tyrrell’s Wines in the Hunter Valley, and stayed there for around six months.” His interest was piqued, and he wanted to see what else was available in the wine world. Labbé is aware how diligent learning, listening to others, and seeing all sides of the industry can shape insight and experience. He is constantly looking at the bigger picture, and recognising best practice in all its forms. He insists: “It gave me a lot of tools that I still use today. It shaped the way I now think and plan things as a winegrower.” Even though he loved his time in Australia and New Zealand, Labbé admits that Chile was calling him home. “I’d met my wife, Maria, in New Zealand, but over time, we decided to move back to Chile, and that’s how the role at Santa Rita Estates came about.” Labbé admits he always knew that “the most important vineyards were planted in Alto Jahuel [where the grapes used for Santa Rita’s iconic Casa Real wine are grown]”. Despite being flexible in winemaking styles, he says “in the beginning, it was challenging to adapt to all the grape varieties that had been established for centuries, because there was a lot of tradition and old-school influence. It gave me a completely different view and added even more knowledge and experience. All of it, really, was great.” He has had the chance to learn from some of the best people in the business, like Pilar González, head winemaker at Santa Rita’s sister winery Viña Carmen. Labbé describes her as being very talented, and says she taught him a lot. He reveals that he also studied the work of the company’s previous winemaker Alvaro Espinoza, who he describes as a “biodynamic and organic farming viticultural guru in Chile”. All this learning ultimately led to Labbé becoming responsible for Santa Rita Estate’s ultra-premium wine portfolio, and for nurturing its Casa Real wine, an opportunity he describes as a true leap of faith. He admits that the timing was fundamental. “Sometimes things come at the right time,” he says. “There was a boat that needed a skipper, and I jumped and caught the rudder. I think it worked quite well but it was a big challenge that I accepted humbly. I mean, it was massive initially, and it really scared me to be looking after Casa Real as one of the most iconic wines from Chile. There is such a lot of heritage and history, so it wasn’t an easy decision. But I took the chance and said: ‘OK, come on, let’s give it a go’.”
Labbé explains that “because it was a big challenge and still is, every time that we’re bottling a new vintage of Casa Real, it’s a lot of pressure”. But, he insists that pressure can also be a good thing because it keeps you on your toes, adding that “a great wine needs someone who cares enough to get things right.” According to Labbé, environment and terroir play big roles in Santa Rita’s future, but he observes that the winery “has a perfect combination” from a climatic point of view, being planted at the foothills of the Andes ranges having an advantageous impact on the wine. “These are wines that have the mountain as the soul of the wine, so that influence from the Andes ranges and the proximity to the Maipo River is also a key factor,” says Labbé. He refers to how Casa Real is “a wine that is grown over gravelly soils [that has] a number of rounded stones, and very good drainage. It is around four kilometres from the base of the Maipo river, meaning it gets the gravelly part of the soil. But because it’s not a very new terroir you do get some clay components, especially down in the lower part of the soil.” How would he describe Casa Real? “It is a wine that has a lot of elegance and finesse, but also structure. It has a super Cabernet base but with all the red fruit and all the cherry. “It is very juicy and has delicate tannins, which feel soft and gentle, but still carry a lot of power, showing that they can age very well. It is a wine that shows its real character when it ages. It has some cedar notes and tobacco, but still maintains that kind of a solid, structured backbone.” According to Labbé, “the objective was always for Santa Rita to make one of the top wines of the world”. He has “tried to keep that message” through his work but his main challenge and focus right now is the establishment of Santa Rita’s newest ultra-premium vineyards. He explains: “We’re planting a lot of new vineyards for the Casa Real project, and also for other ones in Alto Jahuel. We have planted the vast majority of our vineyards there. My main objective has been to make sure that those vineyards are well established. In terms of the future of Casa Real, Labbé says that he and his team have “been working with the massal selections, and replanting some of the vineyards”, which are over 50 years old, and where the core of Casa Real originates. “It is 20 hectares, which amounts to two blocks. We have further subdivided those into around 25 parcels.” The plans may be to expand, but this will happen gradually, says Labbé, and in a controlled way so that quality remains paramount. “I want us to get to 120 acres (48.5ha),” says Labbé. “We are going to grow six times. The main role, as I see it, is, how do I replicate that consistency of quality but growing on a bigger surface?” Labbé maintains that the task is not insurmountable because there is great promise in the future bottlings that will be released by Santa Rita. The vintages that have blended in grapes from some of the new vines are already proving to be outstanding in their own right. “Already, I’m blown away by the quality I have seen since 2021, for example. Santa Rita started planting those vineyards in 2009. Then, in 2015, the first crop of those vineyards was for 2020. But in 2021, I started noticing, especially in blind tastings, that there was something great from the new vineyards. That makes me very happy,” he beams. This good fortune is something that Labbé calls the ‘cascade effect’ or rather a ripple or a wave that can be caught if you are able to notice exactly when to paddle. Labbé says it is a way of recognising how something small, but brilliant, can have a big impact on many other things. That is when you realise just how in tune Labbé is with the finer details. How he diligently watches and waits until the time is just right, waiting for that perfect peeling tide. In his role, “the little things” are the blessings he does not overlook. Instead, he notices how every detail plays a part in contributing towards a bigger story. He explains: “There may still be some other adjustments that we’ll do in the future when it comes to winemaking.” But he believes that little differences executed with precision are as important as making a big splash, because, over time, those minute tweaks contribute to overall quality. As he assesses: “Everything that happens with Casa Real has a cascade effect, and benefits everything else that goes through Santa Rita in general.”
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The Big Interview: Adrian Bridge https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/07/the-big-interview-db-meets-adrian-bridge/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/07/the-big-interview-db-meets-adrian-bridge/#respond Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:12:59 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=583619 The CEO of The Fladgate Partnership on the power of art, green air conditioning, and the importance of finding the right distribution model.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/07/the-big-interview-db-meets-adrian-bridge/feed/ 0 The CEO of The Fladgate Partnership on the power of art, green air conditioning, and the importance of finding the right distribution model. There are times when one must graciously accept defeat. And while the drinks business reaching its 21st birthday in June called for much free-flowing Champagne, we couldn’t quite compete with the 650 years racked up by the Anglo-Portuguese alliance, a milestone that happened to be marked at around the same time as our own celebrations. This continuous friendship between England and Portugal has underlined the Port business for almost as long, following the signing of the Anglo-Portuguese Treaty by King Edward III and King Fernando and Queen Leonor of Portugal on 16 June 1373 in St Paul’s Cathedral, London. Speaking at a dinner held by Taylor’s Port at The Tower of London to mark the occasion, Adrian Bridge, CEO of The Fladgate Partnership, said: “We are proud to be a partner and the official Port for Portugal-UK 650, which commemorates the long and enduring friendship between our two countries.” Bridge himself has played no small hand in steering this alliance for the past 29 years via his role at the helm of iconic Port brands Taylor’s, Croft, Fonseca, and Krohn. He has also done so through his considerable contributions to hospitality and tourism; his portfolio of luxury hotels having fortified Porto’s position as a world-class tourist destination, beckoning Brits to explore the winding, azulejo-studded streets, and snaking hills of this vibrant Portuguese city.

World of wine

Porto’s impressive World of Wine (WOW), which opened its doors in 2020, and cost more than £91 million to complete, funded partly by vintage stock of Fladgate Port, was also spearheaded by Bridge. A vast hub of gastronomy, visual arts and education, the centre has fast become, says Bridge, “the cultural district” of Porto, located in the heart of Vila Nova de Gaia. New at WOW for this summer is ‘The Dynamic Eye’, a Tate Modern exhibition that opens on 3 July, transported to Porto by way of Shanghai. “There are 100 pieces of work, including kinetic and 3D installations, from 60 different artists,” says Bridge, who is himself an avid fan of Wassily Kandinsky or ‘the father of modern art’. “I love the fact that he had synaesthesia – he could hear his paintings,” Bridge has said previously. It is this total surrender to the senses that he wants visitors to feel upon stepping through the doors of WOW. And those visitor numbers are swiftly ramping up. “The Port business has now fully recovered from Covid, and we saw 40% increases in visitors in 2022 across all our properties and locations,” Bridge tells db. At the time of our conversation, Bridge is awaiting final sign-off on planning permission for his vision of transforming a collection of empty riverside Fonseca buildings into a premium hotel offering. “There have been some last-minute complications of a political nature,” he says tactfully, which have delayed things. “But I think it will be possible to open in May 2025. We’re still going ahead with the project, as well as our expansion plans for our property in the Douro, but it’s not clear exactly when either of these will be open to trade.”

A royal affair

According to Bridge, The Fladgate Partnership saw no significant impact on Port sales following either the death of Queen Elizabeth II, nor the coronation of King Charles III. However, Taylor’s did release an 80-year-old Very Very Old Tawny Port (VVOP) for the Queen’s platinum jubilee in 2022, with Bridge saying: “It was important to mark the occasion with a proper sort of bottling.” That “proper sort” was drawn from some of the oldest and rarest Ports maturing in Taylor’s cellars, hidden gems that had been ageing gracefully since before the Second World War. Only 2,000 bottles of the Jubilee VVOP were produced, carrying a price tag of £350 each, though a second release in September 2022 saw a further 3,000 bottles of Taylor’s VVOP descend upon fine wine merchants, retailing for £750. It was a considerable leap into the newly minted Very Very Old Port category, permitted by the Instituto dos Vinhos do Douro e Porto last year. But while the heritage of the brands under Bridge’s wing has undoubtedly been a key factor in their success, he is equally keen to attract a new, younger generation of Port drinkers to the category via his trademarked Portonic (dry white Port and tonic in a can). According to Bridge, launching Portonic during Covid was “a challenge”, and has “required extra work to keep it going”. However, in one particular market switching distributor was key to unlocking the product’s potential, with the company now on track to sell half a million cans in Brazil, “such is the power of the Heineken distribution model”, says Bridge. Lessons have been learned concerning the best way to bring an RTD to market. “We’ve discovered that it can be more appropriate to use a local distributor rather than the typical fine wine distribution channel,” he says. The idea behind Portonic is that convenience is king, with the can offering “a perfect serve every time.” A slew of marketing activations during the past 12 months have seen the product placed in the hands of young, beautiful things during fashion weeks in Milan, Lisbon, and London, while revellers at Primavera Sound in Madrid and Barcelona danced all night to the likes of Dua Lipa and Gorillaz, Portonic firmly in hand thanks to a partnership with the festival. Mention the looming 44% increase in the cost of duty in the UK, however, and dancing is the last thing on Bridge’s mind. Due to come into force on 1 August, Bridge says: “We’re going to see the government effectively push through a record-breaking increase on Port duty, which is likely to result in bottles retailing for around £2.30 more than their current price. Ultimately, a bottle of Taylor’s LBV, instead of being a £15 product, will now be a £20 product.” Whether this is likely to alienate those young consumers he is hoping to win over remains to be seen, especially at a time when the cost-of-living crisis already has its hooks firmly into Millennial and Gen Z disposable incomes.
Bridge and his wife, Natasha, at the Tower of London On the topic of younger crowds, I ask Bridge whether he is aware of the so-called ‘Taylor Port Challenge’ that has blown up on TikTok, and he bristles at its mention. The TikTok trend, which sees videos of young Americans thoroughly incapacitated after drinking copious amounts of Port, unaware of its higher ABV compared with table wine, has gone viral on the social media channel. While Taylor Port is not affiliated with Fladgate’s Taylor’s Port – the former is an entirely separate brand and product based in New York – it must be frustrating to have the integrity of your own brand called into question by consumers who aren’t always aware of the difference. “The problem we have,” says Bridge, “is that the American brand registered its trademark in the US in 1922. By the time we got there in 1924 to register our own trademark we were too late. We cannot control what the American brand, or American consumers do. Taylor Port is a very different proposition to our product. We own the trademark everywhere else in the world.” As for the social media trend itself, Bridge concedes: “It’s the modern world, there’s not much we can do about it. Social media crosses borders and there is no regulatory environment in which we can contest it.”
Moving on from the US to Asia, and Bridge’s tone brightens considerably. “Clearly, a lot of the Asian markets are very strong right now. We’ll see a lot of change in those markets over the next year, especially in the context of the geopolitical changes happening there. I strongly believe that Asia is a very important market for fine wine. Wealth creation in Asia continues to be robust so there are lots of consumers there that want to buy fine wine,” he says. “We’re seeing strong growth in South Korea, and in Taiwan. We have recently increased our visibility in the Philippines, and when I was in Singapore recently I was incredibly pleased to see how buoyant the market was there. People were very much out and spending again.” The turning point for Fladgate’s business in Asia, says Bridge, will come in October, the gateway to the holiday season, starting with the Mid-Autumn festival, and leading up to Christmas. He does, however, note that a large chunk of Fladgate’s Port sales in both the travel retail arena and luxury Asia hotels and restaurants “disappeared during lockdown”, adding “it will take a bit more time for those sectors to recover.”

Green air conditioning

The long-term sustainability of the business is never far from Bridge’s mind, whether that’s working to reduce bottle weight – “we’ve already lightweighted the Croft bottle to reduce our carbon footprint, and are in the process of lightweighting the Taylor’s bottle” – or pioneering green air conditioning in Fladgate’s hotels. When The Bearsley is operational, it will be “the first carbon-neutral hotel in Portugal”, Bridge tells db. This impressive feat will be achieved through implementing DC (direct current) rather than AC (automated current) air cooling functionality throughout the hotel, a move that Bridge estimates will slash the hotel’s electricity use by 40%. “If you think of what your phone uses, that is DC energy,” he says. “You plug the phone into a charger for it to become AC. When you feel the device heat up, that heat is actually a loss of energy. So in a hotel context you can add a small transformer to convert the AC to DC, which generates a loss of heat, and means you don’t need to use a lot of energy to remove the warmth from a building.” It’s not only electricity that keeps Fladgate’s brands running, with the wellbeing of its people fundamental to the business. “We have a large workforce, which is increasingly diverse,” Bridge says. “In the city we provide a lot of accommodation for younger employees. We house 151 staff members, all within walking distance of the World of Wine, and subsidise nutritious food in the canteens. We make sure our team gets 50% of their daily calorific content via our canteens; salads and fruits are heavily subsidised to encourage a healthy, nutritious diet.” How long has the company been doing this? “Forever, really. As a business leader I can set policy and strategy but I can’t do the work on the ground. I need people to feel we are looking after their needs. We’re a family business, and families have values.” With db’s 21st birthday in mind, can Bridge recall how the 2002 vintage was for Port? “We didn’t declare it,” recalls Bridge. “It was a slightly more austere year than the 2003, which was a bit more forward and fruit-driven. In 2002 we had purchased Croft, and invested in putting back the traditional lagares (granite treading tanks) at Quinta da Roêda in the Douro Valley, which marked an important return to foot-treading for us.” 2002 has also been described as an excellent year for those who picked their grapes before the rains; less so for those who didn’t, something that may also prove true of Portugal’s latest harvest, which Bridge says “should be bountiful, as we’ve had a lot of rain this year”.
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The Big Interview: Hannah Tovey https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/05/the-big-interview-hannah-tovey/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/05/the-big-interview-hannah-tovey/#respond Thu, 04 May 2023 10:33:46 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=572901 London Wine Fair’s event director Hannah Tovey on why the capital is a launchpad for trends, and what comes next for English wine.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/05/the-big-interview-hannah-tovey/feed/ 0 London Wine Fair’s event director Hannah Tovey on why the capital is a launchpad for trends, and what comes next for English wine. All eyes will swivel towards London this month as the UK’s biggest wine fair returns to the capital and producers prepare to show off their drinks like belles at a debutante ball to eligible members of the trade. It is also likely to be the first time that London Wine Fair (LWF) director Hannah Tovey, having had a slalom of obstacles to contend with in recent years, will be able to expel a long-held breath. This time last year, Tovey was scrambling to change the fair’s usual May dates and rebook exhibitors following a hammer blow announcement. In late January ProWein had revealed that it would be moving its own show to May as a way of sidestepping the worst of the Covid-19 variants that threatened to disrupt travel. At the time of the date clash Tovey made no bones about the fact that she felt “confused, bemused, and angry”, telling the drinks business that she saw the move as “an extremely aggressive assault on both the London Wine Fair and the UK drinks market”. With LWF having been cancelled in 2020 as a result of the pandemic, and held as a digital-only event in 2021 due to continued lockdowns, will 2023 finally be the year the fair goes off without a hitch? “We have one opportunity per year to bring the entire trade together in London and create our shop window for the world,” Tovey says. “London is strongly recognised as a launchpad and a leader, and people look to us for that.” To mark the fair’s return on 15-17 May, Tovey has supersized LWF’s offering, setting her team the ambitious target of staging not only the “greenest” trade fair in the world but also, and by no mean feat, the “most intelligent”.

DIGITAL CONNECTIVITY

In this particular context, Tovey explains, ‘intelligence’ alludes to both the calibre of education and discussion that will take place at the event and also to the level of digital connectivity that will be available to attendees. “What makes LWF stand out from other drinks events is the incredible amount of content we have,” says Tovey. “It’s one of the things we excel at. Other events simply can’t match us for the sheer volume we have in terms of what’s going on, with more than 80 sessions taking place over three days. These talks and masterclasses are, well, I hate to use the term ‘world-beating’ because the Tories have completely destroyed that phrase, but they are truly special.” Running through the core of LWF 2023 like the all-important layer of jam in a Victoria sponge is the theme of sustainability, with a planet-friendly focus permeating every crevice of the event. “After we announced that sustainability would be the focus for the fair, there were a few weeks where we’d never experienced such an influx of organisations getting in touch, wanting to tell us what they are doing in that space,” says Tovey. “But so many were saying the same things. We had to be brutally honest and question whether relaying this or that brand’s green achievements would help the wider industry to better itself. I was also conscious that it would be a tragedy if the event itself didn’t stand up to sustainable scrutiny, which gave rise to the idea of bringing together different entities and asking them to collaborate with each other to create something completely new.”
As a result, The Porto Protocol Foundation, a non-profit organisation founded by Taylor Fladgate Port, is teaming up with the Sustainable Wine Solutions Company in London (and 17 other stakeholders) to make sure every bottle at LWF is collected and reused.
“We will produce a report at the end of the show – the first report of its kind – looking at the opportunities and challenges of bottle reuse rather than recycling,” Tovey tells db. At the time of writing, her team has only just been given the go-ahead after tirelessly mapping out the minutiae of how they will facilitate the reuse of around 30,000 bottles. “It has taken a huge team, and a lot of planning, right down to details such as the right receptacles for used bottles to go into at the show,” says Tovey. “Formerly, it didn’t matter if bottles got smashed because they were going to be broken down and turned into sand during the recycling process anyway. But you can’t have broken bottles for reuse so we’ve had to approach the process in a completely different way.” There will also be a comprehensive cork-collection programme at the event.   It’s a sign of the times, Tovey says, when exhibitors at the fair are “more passionate about what they bottle in, rather than what’s in the bottle”. She says the number of exhibitors interested in showing off their green packaging, often more so than the product itself, has “increased tenfold”, which Tovey believes “speaks volumes” about the seismic shift towards sustainable design. “The people who have been talking to me the most this year have all been in the field of sustainable packaging. The stuff that’s finding me is all centred around that topic. And the people that are passionate about this area are quite a force to be reckoned with. They want to be heard,” she says. While Tovey welcomes thoughts and ideas from those producers who are already involved with green issues, she says that she would equally like to hear more from those companies that perhaps aren’t so green-minded, or at least aren’t yet. “I’d like to be able to get their messages and priorities across too, but I’m not hearing it so loudly,” she says. It’s a shame, Tovey feels, that some of the more “old-school” vintners don’t seem to recognise the fair as “a platform to be seen as a proactive, engaged member of the industry”. And while she won’t be drawn on who, or to which category such producers might belong, one thing is abundantly clear: Tovey keenly wants LWF to be a mouthpiece for all.

A WIN FOR THE PLANET

Of course, it’s slim coincidence that there is a surge in brands suddenly extolling the virtues of packaging their wines in paper bottles when the cost of glass has rocketed and the material has become famously hard to get hold of. But for Tovey, the motive is less important than the result. “We know that people don’t always act entirely altruistically, but if the end result is the same then it’s still a win for the planet,” she says. That said, even the most caustic cynic cannot fail to spot that the innovations belonging to this year’s fair extend well beyond paper bottles. With LWF striving to be the most “intelligent” trade fair in the world, its organisers drew from the lessons they learned from staging the fair as a digital-only event in 2021. “It’s not just about bringing together more than 10,000 people but about how you can connect with them, and how they can connect with each other,” says Tovey. “We learned that there are enormous opportunities to be had from harnessing online events both before and after LWF.” For this reason, ahead of this year’s fair, event organisers will open up a ‘Digital Dashboard’, through which guests can organise their diaries. “People will be able to exchange information and conversations in the lead-up to the event,” says Tovey. “And if they input their objectives for visiting the show, the algorithm will match them up with the best people to help enrich their experience. It’s a bit like a dating app. The dashboard will provide a list of suggested matches and guests can either ask to set up a meeting on site with those matches at the physical fair, or schedule a video meeting for whenever suits. This might be between a buyer and a wine producer or between a certain association and a visitor who is looking to join that association. It’s pretty smart.” As ever, English wineries will be the beating heart of the fair, with more represented than ever this year. At the time of writing, 11 English wine brands have signed up to exhibit their still and sparkling wines. Like many in the trade, Tovey is still reeling at the news that WineGB’s CEO, Simon Thorpe, has stepped down after just three years in the role to join importer Thornton Hunt as its managing director. “I was quite surprised, and sad. Simon is a lovely chap, and has been a delight to interact with. He’s clearly a very committed, intelligent and genuinely nice person, and I wish him well,” says Tovey, who remains on standby to discover who will step into Thorpe’s shoes. “It’s entirely critical who that person is,” she insists. “Clearly, with the rapid growth of English wine we need to see a direct correlation when it comes to its marketing and brand development. We have a unique opportunity to produce some of the best wines in the world and present them to global markets. Whoever is the very best at doing that should be the new head of WineGB.” When db interviewed Thorpe last year, he spoke about the existing framework for carving up English wine into Protected Designation of Origins (PDOs), and whether these would ultimately turn out to be a help or a hindrance to the industry. “I’d hate to sit so far on the fence that it’s up my bottom but I can see it from both sides,” says Tovey. “Any kind of fixed parameters are going to stem creativity in English wine, but the benefit lies in being able to stress the idea of typicity and build a brand for these regional, distinctive wines. “That said, I’ve never had to be a winemaker working within those limited parameters, and something about it doesn’t feel entirely British. But overall, I would say I am more for PDOs than I am against.” With the stratospheric growth of English wine in recent years, Tovey believes the sector can help open doors for other categories in the UK drinks trade. “ If you asked anyone five or 10 years ago to talk about British drinks, all you heard was the word ‘gin’ on repeat. But after the feverish buying up of land and vineyards in the UK, one of the biggest things we can smile about is the rise in British wine production,” she says. “I do think the English wine industry has a responsibility to lead, and to advance the conversation about UK drinks as a whole.” The looming issue of wine tourism in the UK is another hot topic. With visiting a British pub top of the list for many international visitors, how can we get them to check out an English winery? “I think more strategic partnerships between English wineries and either pubs or restaurants could be a really good step forward,” says Tovey. “There has to be a role there to play for WineGB in terms of encouraging wineries to get their products to a partner pub or pubs where people can discover their wines. Perhaps from there people will be inspired to branch out and visit the wineries.” It’s back to that shop window again. And there is no better window dresser than the woman behind the London Wine Fair.  
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The Big Interview: British Hop Association director Ali Capper https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/04/the-big-interview-british-hop-association-director-ali-capper/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/04/the-big-interview-british-hop-association-director-ali-capper/#respond Tue, 11 Apr 2023 08:45:11 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=569273 New breeds of British hops could help the country’s brewing industry cut down on its costs and carbon footprint, as Ali Capper, director of the British Hop Association, tells Jessica Mason

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/04/the-big-interview-british-hop-association-director-ali-capper/feed/ 0 New breeds of British hops could help the country’s brewing industry cut down on its costs and carbon footprint, as Ali Capper, director of the British Hop Association, tells Jessica Mason In every sphere of the food and drink industry, the importance of food miles and the impact of our carbon footprint is well understood. We know sourcing ingredients closer to home can assist in our nation’s sustainability goals, and also support the local economy. But do enough consumers know which beer styles are brewed with predominantly British hop varieties? When we buy a beer, is it possible to be conscientious enough to consider not just brewery location but also the distance its ingredients have travelled? In the past, we were spoilt for choice, with shops offering items out of season from further afield, but in the wake of Brexit, inflation and logistics becoming barriers, perhaps we can adapt to have a greater awareness of what we grow ourselves. Understanding how a small decision made at the bar can have a big impact on our agricultural prosperity, as well as the prices our independent craft brewers have to absorb, could have the potential to influence more informed choices. Looking stateside for alpha hop dominance or to Europe for something crisp and refreshing will always remain an itch many of us want to scratch. But what if the variety of hop phenols in Britain were to expand due to new hops grafted from foreign relatives? Might we be able to reduce the ecological impact of local brewing, along with reducing the prices? Indeed, that time is upon us. The dream of making beer in this way is now available. The hops are ready and waiting. Ask Ali Capper, director of the British Hop Association (BHA), hop and fruit farmer, and chair of the breeding programme for British hops at Wye Hops. As she attests, all we really need is to get brewers to experiment with what’s now on their doorstep. Capper, who is a partner at Stocks Farm on the Herefordshire and Worcestershire border, has had a big impact on the progression of the British beer and brewing scene. Keeping British hops relevant in an ever-fickle beer industry isn’t easy. Really, all the hipsters have wanted for a long time is something that shouts loudly. This kind of gum-receding bitterness is sometimes called ‘hop creep’, a term used when you can barely taste or appreciate varying beer styles because you’ve raised the IBUs [International Bitterness Units – ascale to gauge the bitterness of beer] – on your core beer to a level of white noise. But we Brits are more reserved, in lots of ways. Sure, we want flavour. But we also want to be able to appreciate nuance. And post-craft, we sought refreshment and a well-attenuated lager, perhaps. Now, we want sessionability and balance. “Brewers want flavour, impact and something new,” says Capper, who points out that “the innovators are looking to replace New World hops with British ones to reduce their carbon footprint, and reduce their water footprint”. She explains: “We have a wonderful maritime climate here in the UK, and we have ideal hop-growing conditions. Even in a dry year like last year we would irrigate for a lot less of the season than in the US or New Zealand, where it is hotter and drier. Any hop travelling a long distance will carry a higher carbon footprint so buying British hops helps brewers reduce their emissions.”
Capper also highlights how it isn’t just about the carbon footprint, but being conscious of water waste too. She says: “Climate change puts the UK in a good place to grow crops, and we should be growing more here and importing less from water-stressed countries.” The geographic origins of the hops used in brewing is important because the bitter resins and essential oils inside the hop cone depend on the environmental conditions they were influenced by during their growth. Hops in general have male and female plants, but the part of the plant used in brewing beer – the cone – is from the female. Male plants simply produce pollen, but no flowers or cones. Much like grape varieties, New World hop styles grown in the sunshine are bolder and brighter, with heaps of grapefruit citrus and tropical notes. In Europe, or rather the Old World, and in Great Britain, hops tend to lend more subdued flavours and aromas, but what they lack in fluorescence, they make up for in complexity. In Great Britain, male hop plants are grown alongside female ones. In many of the breeding programmes, the males are not ‘killed’ but used as parents to develop new female varieties, as well as provide disease resistance in their female hop plant progeny. But can brewers get out of the habit of thinking that they need to always use American hops to garner attention, especially varieties such as Citra, Mosaic, and Galaxy? Or even NZ hops that pack pine and spicy resinous esters into each brew. Let’s hope so. According to recent figures from the Society of Independent Brewers (SIBA) there are 1,824 active brewers in the UK. Plus, the BHA says there are at least 32 commercially-available varieties of British hops. But in terms of newness, now there are British varieties that are bred from New World parents, lending something from their naturally borrowed genealogy to their offspring. Hop plants are perennial, and grow back from the rootstock each year, usually in spring when their shoots emerge. They then begin to grow and climb rapidly on a string framework that is usually supported by a more permanent pole system or wirework. Different hop varieties climb differently, so for ease, some are strung in different patterns to make them easier to harvest, but the diversity illustrates how far things have come from only thinking of one style when it comes to British hops. As Capper describes: “Challenger is beautiful in a bitter; Goldings in an English pale ale; Phoenix in a porter or stout; Jester in an amber ale; Olicana in a New World pale ale; Harlequin in IPAs.” She points out that the “new varieties of British Hops, like Jester, Olicana, and Harlequin, have amazing flavours – tropical fruits, citrus, passionfruit, mango, peach and pineapple”. These are flavours for which British hops have not previously been known. They are ideal to switch into recipes in place of New World hops for “punchy IPA’s, citrusy beers and pale ales with impact,” says Capper. But as Capper reiterates, it isn’t just the possibilities of the new hop varieties that consumers need to become excited about, but a genuine sense of virtue they will feel about what they can do for their local businesses. “Hop growers are faced with high wage costs (up by 15%-20% in a year) and super inflation in fuel costs (up 100%-200%), fertiliser (up 400%) and crop protection (up 15%), “ says Capper. “Brewers are also facing huge energy cost increases, as well as packaging and wage cost increases and we are all faced with logistics price rises. Super inflation is hard to mitigate against, and while growers can look at efficiencies and crossquote everything, they do this anyway. What is important is that everyone is paid a fair price for what they are producing.” "She reveals that, essentially, these past few years have been some of the hardest ever because “Covid struck the industry very hard, and brewers and merchants reneged on contracts”. This meant that “growers have lost significant money three years in a row, and now need contract certainty and prices that reflect the cost of production”. Added to this, “the hop-growing industry has reduced by over 10%, and it is likely to reduce further as growers choose to stop hop farming because the risks are too great". If all British brewers investigated British hops, and began adapting their brewing recipes to introduce more beers using the progressive new varieties that share more pronounced New World properties, would there be enough available? Capper insists: “There will be more than enough to go round. Hop growers need brewers to forecast and provide three- to five-year contracts. Growers can then grow to these contracts, and deliver what is required.” She implores: “Buy British. It’s not just the financial cost of the hops but also the cost to the planet" and adds that brewers, retailers, venue owners, and even the end consumer should start to look for the newest styles, and note who is making this forward step already. And she suggests we all look out for “Jester, Olicana and Harlequin and the numerous experimental varieties that British hop growers are growing for brewers”, especially if we become interested in beers that are going to have an “impact”. Are there any downsides? It doesn’t sound like it. Perhaps this is the next trend for beer, she observes. “As long as these hops deliver in the beers being brewed they will be here for the future.”
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The Big Interview: Philip Gregan, CEO, New Zealand Winegrowers https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/03/the-big-interview-philip-gregan-ceo-new-zealand-winegrowers/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/03/the-big-interview-philip-gregan-ceo-new-zealand-winegrowers/#respond Tue, 14 Mar 2023 10:03:09 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=564987 With this year marking the 50th anniversary of commercial plantings in Marlborough, Philip Gregan, CEO of New Zealand Winegrowers, talks record-breaking exports, and breezing through the energy crisis with Sarah Neish.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/03/the-big-interview-philip-gregan-ceo-new-zealand-winegrowers/feed/ 0 With this year marking the 50th anniversary of commercial plantings in Marlborough, Philip Gregan, CEO of New Zealand Winegrowers, talks record-breaking exports, and breezing through the energy crisis with Sarah Neish. By anyone's standards, streamlining logistical operations over the past 12 months has been about as fun as wading through treacle uphill wearing a fur coat, and with an acute treacle intolerance. And while no one in the trade has been immune to the challenges, few have had to ship their goods quite as far as have New Zealand wine producers. With the country’s top-two wine export markets (the US and UK respectively) located around 6,000 and 10,000 nautical miles away from source, connecting the dots to get wine in the hands of consumers has been a Herculean feat. “Shipping in particular has caused real problems, whether that be ships not turning up or ships that have sailed but without taking containers on board,” says Philip Gregan, CEO of New Zealand Winegrowers, the industry body that represents the country’s winemakers. “These issues around logistics and reliability still endure, but I’m on a group sit-up with the government to try to tackle them.” The struggle to get wine on ships makes it all the more impressive that New Zealand is on track to hit a recordbreaking NZ$2.4 billion (£1.25bn) worth of wine exports for June Year End 2023. Current exports amount to NZ$2.26bn for the 2022 calendar year to December. “From vintage 2022 we started to see a rebound, and now that we’ve got wines back on shelves, we’re selling at compelling rates, and faster,” says Gregan. In fact, the rate of sale for New Zealand white wine is up by 2.3% on 2021, which bucks the wider market trend. The equivalent rate of sale for white wine from France, for example, is down by 13% (in the six weeks to 14 January 2023), and for white wines from Chile and South Africa it fell by 1.2% and 3.5% respectively. New Zealand coming up trumps in this department has much to do with the insatiable demand for Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc, and the tenacity of the country’s winemakers in producing at volume while maintaining quality and holding fast on premium prices. But there has been another saving grace for Kiwi wineries during the past year.

SUSTAINABLE PIONEERS

With New Zealand producers having been early pioneers of sustainable viticulture, a large chunk of the country’s wine industry is, and has been for some time, run on renewable energy. So when Putin marched his troops into Ukraine, effectively kiboshing energy supplies, New Zealand was already one step ahead. “Around 80% of our energy is generated from renewable sources, whether that be hydro energy, geothermal, or wind. We’ve had that in place since long before the 2000s, and it’s stood us in good stead for withstanding soaring energy costs,” says Gregan, who lets out a low whistle when asked how differently things might have looked had winemakers been crippled by rocketing energy costs, on top of having to contend with logistical acrobatics, all while recovering from the country’s infamous short 2021 harvest, which saw yields down by 19%. He explains that New Zealand’s early decision to go green, long before consumers and the industry demanded it, was in fact born out of necessity. “We didn’t have a lot of oil, and we’re an island nation, situated more than 2,000km from anywhere else. So we needed to use what was readily available to us. We have volcanoes, so we can produce a lot of geothermal energy, and we get a lot of westerly winds in New Zealand, so wind turbines were an obvious solution.”
 
The nation’s wine industry has never been one to shy away from taking risks. This year will mark 50 years since the first commercial plantings went into the ground in Marlborough, a turning point that would come to transform the country’s economy. ”If you’d asked winemakers in 1971 what groundbreaking thing might occur in the next two years that would lead to NZ$2.4bn worth of exports, I’m pretty sure no one would have said it would be planting grapes in Marlborough,” says Gregan. “The view back then was that it was too cold in the South Island to grow grapes.” Today, Marlborough represents 71% of the country’s plantings, according to New Zealand Wine.
For Gregan, however, Marlborough’s steadfast sales aren’t a passport to complacency, and he is looking firmly to the future. “It’s important to view where we’re at now as being the beginning,” he says. “We don’t want to get too caught up in where we’ve come from. Wineries have got to continue to innovate.” One thing likely to help with that innovation is getting the long-awaited free-trade deal with the UK across the line, which is expected to happen in 2023. “It will hopefully come into play at some point this year. New Zealand government officials say that it’s all on track but there have been one or two changes to the UK government over the last eight months,” says Gregan with a wry smile. “There’s nothing that will prevent the deal from coming into force, it’s just a question of getting it through the regulatory framework.” When the deal does come to fruition, Gregan believes it will be a “real step forward” for both countries. But how exactly will the deal change things for winemakers on the ground? “It’s going to make it a lot easier for New Zealand producers to export to the UK. VI1 forms have gone, thankfully, but perhaps more importantly, the deal will allow for more modern and flexible winemaking,” he says. “Rather than be subject to strict EU rules, the free-trade deal means our winemakers will have access to a more ‘normal’ range of winemaking techniques.” Describing current EU law as “not precisely like wearing a straightjacket, but not far off it”, Gregan is excited to see what the loosening of rules could conjure up when it comes to wine in the bottle. “When we make wine to sell to the US, for example, we make it in exactly the same way as we would to sell to our domestic market. But until now that has not been the case for the UK,” he explains. “The deal means that producers will be able to make wine in a way that suits them and which corresponds to the seasons rather than having to follow a restrictive protocol with regards to things like acidification and de-acidification.” He is keen to point out that as a relatively young wine-producing country, New Zealand winemakers are to some extent still in the ‘suck it and see’ phase. “We don’t have 400 or 500 years of experience in the industry,” he highlights. ”We’re still learning, and when you’re learning you need to be able to experiment and try different ways of doing things.”

THREE PILLARS

With the 50th anniversary of Marlborough grape plantings just around the corner, the moment seemed ripe for a wider refresh of ‘brand New Zealand’. After carrying out extensive market research, New Zealand Winemakers revealed its new tagline – Altogether Unique – in January, in a bid to determine how the world will see its producers for the next 50 years or more. “The idea was to go beyond our commonly used differentiators, and develop a narrative around how the New Zealand wine brand should make you feel,” says Gregan. “The likes of Chile and Argentina were all saying the same thing – “Our wines are premium, they’re sustainable” and so on. We needed to drill down to a deeper level to define what sets New Zealand wine apart from our rivals.” The organisation’s three new pillars of ‘purity, care, and innovation’ were born from the feedback winemakers receive about their products. “The purity refers to our unblemished sunlight, unpolluted environment and fresh, clear water,” says Gregan. “Care denotes the fact that our producers are cultivating grapes sustainably and with a connection to the land. Innovation is a nod to the sense of adventure that underpins our industry.” While no harm can come from strengthening consumer perception of New Zealand wine, in truth it seldom needs it. Wineries worldwide are already intent on mimicking the country’s success, which comes with its own set of complications. Gregan, who adheres to the adage that “imitation is the finest form of flattery”, has nonetheless had to “strongly oppose” numerous trademark registrations for products because they are “blatantly ripping off New Zealand”. “We’ve seen a lot of products from other countries that look like or use words associated with New Zealand wine,” he explains, before flagging one French wine that goes by the name Kiwi Cuvée and a “major US retailer” that features the traditional Maori greeting ‘kia ora’ on its Sauvignon bottle as examples. In the case of the latter, “It’s a Sauvignon Blanc, but not from anywhere near New Zealand,” Gregan says archly.
Despite the lingering threat of identity fraud the only thing that has managed to dent sales of New Zealand wines during the past decade was the worryingly short harvest that the country’s winemakers experienced in 2021. Is this behind them now or are producers still experiencing the fallout? “To a large extent we’re out the other side but producers had to make really tough decisions about who and what they supplied,” says Gregan. “Half the problem was that the short harvest was so unexpected, especially in the context of the huge surplus of demand we were seeing at the time. What it has done is got people thinking about resilience. People had to rebuild stocks and relationships, and some are still doing so.” While 2022 was effectively a year of recovery, the 2023 harvest looks to be shaping up nicely. “The first grapes have been harvested, and we’re expecting to finish picking in late April or early May,” says Gregan. “All indications so far are for a normal-sized crop. We’re certainly not expecting a 2021 situation. But we should have more definitive figures at the start of June.” Looking ahead to the remainder of this year, protecting the reputation of New Zealand wine both on a global and local scale is top of his agenda. On the world stage, Gregan is looking forward to the country hosting the next Cool Climate Wine Symposium in January 2026. “New Zealand Society for Viticulture and Oenology is working through the programme now and how it’s going to work,” says Gregan. “All eyes will be on our country, with viticulturalists, winemakers and researchers coming to New Zealand, so it’s a great opportunity for us to showcase what we’ve been working on to an interested and passionate community.”

LOCAL SUPPORT

And what about closer to home? With wine and wine tourism playing such a key role in New Zealand’s fortunes, Gregan is keen for producers to maintain their social currency in local communities. Writing for Rural News Group earlier this year, he said: “We need to ensure that our sector retains its social licence to operate. In other words – we need to ensure that our producers are valued by their local communities as an asset worth keeping and protecting.” One thing producers can do to keep this social currency alive as New Zealand wine enters its next chapter is to listen to any concerns. “Vineyards are noisy places. They have tractors going at all hours of the day, helicopters for frost control, wind machines, bird bangers (a noise device that scares birds away from vines), and we absolutely need to do all this if we’re going to produce the quality that our markets demand, but we also need our communities to continue to allow us to do that,” Gregan says. “Wineries must stick by the rules, and if they get a complaint, then act on it fast. We’re in a privileged position so we have to be cleaner than clean,” he adds. “People are proud of our wine industry and we want to make sure that pride is there for many years to come.”
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The Big Interview: Marimar Torres https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/02/the-big-interview-marimar-torres/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/02/the-big-interview-marimar-torres/#respond Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:24:07 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=561557 Having founded her eponymous wine estate in 1986, Marimar Torres is preparing to hand over the reins to her daughter, Cristina. Here she tells Gabriel Stone about her decades of pioneering work in Sonoma County

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Having founded her eponymous wine estate in 1986, Marimar Torres is preparing to hand over the reins to her daughter, Cristina. She tells Gabriel Stone about her decades of pioneering work in Sonoma County.

Even the most casual wine drinker in a far-flung corner of the world is likely to have had a Torres encounter. Over five generations, this outward-looking producer has expanded well beyond its Penedès roots, building an export presence in more than 100 markets, supplied by vineyards everywhere from Rioja to Rías Baixas, and even Chile, where the family founded an outpost as far back as 1979. But this father-to-son Hispanic empire isn’t the only success story worth following. In California’s Sonoma County, wrapped in that famous cooling Pacific fog, lies an equally pioneering Torres venture that is set to see the family’s first mother-daughter transition. Here Marimar Torres, who planted the original vines at Marimar Estate in 1986, has recently been joined full-time by daughter Cristina. After three years as the company’s director of sales and marketing, 2023 sees Cristina take the helm as general manager. This may be a family with plenty of experience in handing over the reins, but that doesn’t necessarily make transition any easier. “It’s not,” concedes Marimar Torres, a comforting hand on her two English Springer Spaniels, Bonita and Chico. “I’m trying so hard.” Alongside this conscious effort not to interfere comes an acceptance that giving up control entirely is hardly part of her genetic inheritance either. “My brother still has some autocratic moments, but that’s OK,” she shrugs indulgently of Miguel A Torres, who remains president of Familia Torres after ceding the general manager role in 2012 to his son, Miguel Torres Maczassek. Certainly, stepping aside shouldn’t be confused with checking out. “I love what I do; I don’t intend to retire,” Torres insists, only half-joking with the suggestion: “Maybe I’ll just let my daughter do things with my advice.”

PARADOXICAL APPROACH

The ability to take family advice while forging a fiercely independent path is certainly the paradoxical approach that has shaped Marimar Estate since the start. After two years searching for a property, Torres found herself torn between following the crowd by acquiring an seven-hectare estate in Napa Valley or heading off the beaten track with a 22ha estate in a cool corner of Sonoma. “I called my brother,” she recalls. “He said, ‘Are there any vineyards around?’ I said, ‘No, but it’s very beautiful.’” Beauty triumphed over reason, and Torres found herself at the vanguard of a boom in Sonoma’s wine industry. Originally the main focus here was Chardonnay, although she planted one third of the original vineyard area with Pinot Noir, not then the obvious proposition that it might seem today. “I’ve always liked Burgundy,” shrugs Torres. “But in those days people were not drinking red wine in the US.” Once again, her instinct and timing was perfect. A 1991 episode of popular TV show 60 Minutes tackled “The French Paradox”, which set out the theory that despite their love of fatty foods, the French suffered fewer heart attacks than Americans because they drank plenty of red wine. “Suddenly everyone wanted the Pinot Noir!” Torres recollects. “That’s why I like America,” she adds, drawing a contrast with the far more rigid mentality she experienced growing up in Franco’s Spain. “People here are like sponges; you say something and they absorb it.” Commercial nous runs in the blood though: any customer wanting a case of Marimar Estate Pinot had to commit to buying two cases of the Chardonnay as well.
Gradually Marimar Estate was able to expand, and with it the volume of Pinot Noir. Today this variety accounts for eight of the 19ha at the original Don Miguel Vineyard in Russian River Valley, and all 8ha planted so far at the estate’s Doña Margarita Vineyard in Freestone Valley, just seven miles from the cooling Pacific Ocean. This significant share of volume is accompanied by prestige: it is the Cristina Pinot Noir that sits at the pinnacle of the estate’s portfolio. This variety may be big business in Sonoma today, but it’s clear Torres has reached a personal saturation point. “Now I would not plant Pinot Noir,” she remarks, looking back to another piece of brotherly advice that she not only design the winery in the style of a Catalan farmhouse, but strengthen the link to her roots by planting Spanish grapes. The first attempt was Cava mainstay Parellada, “but it wasn’t very good,” concedes Torres. After persevering for 10 years she pulled it out, a fate also destined for the estate’s Syrah experiment. “It is very good, but it’s not really what we get inspiration from,” she explains. Undeterred, in 2004 Torres planted Albariño, but that wasn’t exactly plain sailing either. “Galicia is cold and humid so I planted it in our coldest vineyard, but guess what? After three years it still didn’t ripen,” she reminisces. “Cold and wet in Spain is not the same – it’s much colder here.”  
Marimar Estate It’s not just the climatic differences between Spain and Sonoma that have forced a learning curve. The latter's soils are generally much younger, with a marked volcanic component. “They’re very vigorous and fertile,” explains Torres, noting the need for high-density planting and summer pruning not just once, as might be the case in Spain, but three or even four times a year. After replanting her Albariño in the slightly warmer Don Miguel Vineyard, Torres eventually achieved a first successful harvest in 2010. Tempranillo joined the portfolio in 2013, then, in 2020, came a small amount of Godello, which occupies a single acre here. While these Spanish novelties are a popular cellar-door purchase, they are also starting to venture further afield. November 2022 saw Marimar Estate’s Tempranillo join the Albariño already in the UK, with Godello due to land in time for summer 2023. How easily have these Spanish interlopers broken into Sonoma’s tightly focused wine scene? After all, Pinot Noir and Chardonnay together today account for almost half the total region’s vineyard area, and an even bigger share of its reputation. “The Tempranillo is very good,” insists Torres, “but it’s not as easy to sell as the Albariño and Godello.” Drawing a parallel with the style of Tempranillo found in Rioja Alta or higher parts of Ribera del Duero, she observes: “It’s a tannic wine. You have to age it and here people typically want younger wines.” This factor also presents challenges for building critical acclaim. “Most of the press are tasting 2019s right now, but our 2019 Tempranillo is not ready,” acknowledges Torres.
That obstacle might be daunting for another producer, but back in the 1970s and early ’80s Torres was busy building distribution for her family’s Spanish wines at a time when there were almost no US critics at all. “In those days wine was not a big thing,” she notes. “Very few cities had wine critics, but they always had a food critic, so I would get the wines in through them instead.” It helped that in the early days of this adventure, Torres was herself married to an American wine and restaurant critic, who encouraged her to embrace home cooking in a way that had not been possible back in Spain. “It was not a ladylike thing to do,” she smiles. “I had to make friends with the family cook, and then wait until my parents went out on a trip.” Suddenly, here she was in the kitchen with US culinary icon Julia Child coming for dinner. “Can you imagine! I made a paella and gazpacho for her, and a dessert, which she was not impressed with.” This wider gastronomic passion, indeed considerable expertise – Torres has published several books about Spanish and Catalan cuisine – played a formative role in the sort of wines she wanted to make. “I like balance, not fruit bombs,” she explains, “wines that are yummy, that go well with food, not the wines that impress critics.” With this outlook shaping her decisions, it should come as little surprise that Torres’ next project – a firm signal that retirement is not on the cards – is likely to involve a Spanish grape that has recently started to boast a particularly enthusiastic following among sommeliers. “I want to plant Mencía; it’s so good,” she smiles.

RARE SPANISH VARIETIES

Marimar Estate is also supporting the Torres family’s long-term drive to preserve and promote far rarer Spanish varieties. Moneu, Pirene, and Gonfaus are hardly household names, but are all being given an opportunity to shine in this scenic enclave of Northern California. The challenging hot, dry 2022 harvest meant these “ancestral” grapes were rather sidelined as the team focused all their attention on more commercially significant parts of the crop, but the plan is eventually to select one to join the portfolio. So, as the Torres baton is prepared to once again pass down to the next generation, there’s no sign of any dip in the energetic momentum that has kept this estate ahead of the crowd. Looking back on the 40-year unfolding of this race, Torres paints a picture that is very much marathon rather than sprint. “I always think you do things one step at a time,” she remarks. “You put one foot forward and keep going. If it doesn’t work, take a step backwards but don’t give up. The one thing you can’t tell me is ‘you can’t do that.’” It seems unlikely that she’d be surprised – or even disappointed – if her advice to Marimar Estate’s new general manager meets with precisely the same spirit.
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The Big Interview: Caroline Frey https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/01/the-big-interview-caroline-frey/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/01/the-big-interview-caroline-frey/#respond Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:50:47 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=557313 French winemaker Caroline Frey tells Colin Hay how global warming is changing the taste of our favourite wines

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French winemaker Caroline Frey tells Colin Hay how global warming is changing the taste of our favourite wines.

While few would deny the effects that global warming is having on the wine trade, there aren’t many who are prepared to be quite as searingly honest as Caroline Frey about its effect on their work on the front line. Nor many who have had a ringside seat to watch the fight play out in different French regions, each of which has its own set of unique climatic challenges to grapple with. As winemaker for Château La Lagune in Bordeaux, Château Corton in Burgundy, and Paul Jaboulet Aîné in the Rhône, Frey has witnessed the many micro-aggresions that climate change brings, and she is hugely passionate about wielding the tools of organic and biodynamic viticulture to combat them. Over a two-day visit and vertical tasting of Hermitage La Chapelle and of flagship wine Château La Lagune, Frey tells the drinks business how her experiences at these French properties have led her to the conclusion that “soil is everything”. “Over the past 20 years, climate change has, of course, affected the taste of our wines,” she says. “The taste of the wine in the glass and the health of the terroir are intimately interconnected. It is by tending and preserving a soil capable of regulating the effects of the climate that we preserve the identity of our wines.” Batting away any suggestion of her wines having a particular style, she adds that “a style is a fashion, and fashions pass. I prefer to talk about the core identity of a wine, its DNA.” To put it another way, Frey is interested in searching for the “deep soul of a wine”, and how winemakers can preserve that special link to the place from which the wine comes. “I believe that the quality of any wine comes from its terroir. That is why we attach so much importance to the proper functioning of the ecosystem in which our vines grow, and why we do everything we can to preserve it.” Understanding these intricate and entwined pathways of roots, organic matter and the living creatures that exist in and around them “requires a profound attention to all that takes place underground – the humus, the microorganisms, the mycelium – as well as all that takes places above ground – the fauna and flora, the microclimate and the surrounding biodiversity”, Frey explains.

MORE THAN TERROIR

That said, her vinous creations are by no means the result of the terroir alone. Careful work in the vineyard and in the cellar are instrumental to crafting the elegant expressions that her châteaux are known for. “The terroir is, in my eyes at least, what matters most. But although it is the necessary precondition of greatness, it is not in itself sufficient,” says Frey. “It is, if you like, the musical score that nature has composed; it still has to be performed.” Over the years, Frey’s three French wine estates have been certified organic and biodynamic. As well as extensive changes implemented in the vineyard, Frey has also initiated various green projects, such as planting 1,200 species of hedges and more than 5,000 sq m of fruit orchards to increase biodiversity at her sites. Additionally, she has overhauled the packaging of the chateaux’s wines to use natural vegetable inks, recycled materials, and considerably lighter bottles. When asked whether she thinks that climate change has been kinder to the Médoc, where Château La Lagune is based, than it has to the Rhône, which houses Paul Jaboulet Aîné, Frey pauses to consider her answer. “Yes, but things are probably a little more complicated than that,” she says finally. “The two contexts are, in the end, very different, and it may not be terribly helpful to draw comparisons. The soils of Bordeaux would probably not support the climate of the Rhône, and the inverse would probably not work well either. When it comes to climate change it’s not really a question of one being more severely impacted than the other. I would not draw that conclusion from my experience, anyway. We have to adapt in both regions to allow the vines to withstand intense periods of heat but, perhaps above all, long periods of drought punctuated by occasional substantial rainfall.” Frey is fortunate to be able to tap into the expertise of her teams across the three wineries. “Each region has its own terroir and its own history. You really have to respect that. But, of course, I always try to see if something that works well in one region might be interesting for the other,” she says. “A lot of this comes from the complimentary skills of the teams. For example, at La Lagune, our culture manager is very interested in biodynamic plants and compost. At Jaboulet, we have a culture manager who is very competent in top grafting and massal selection. When we pool the skills of both teams together, we find we have a lot of possibilities.”
Each winery team must also be finely attuned to the specificities of their property’s surroundings. At Château La Lagune, for instance, 40 hectares of protected wetlands circle the vineyards, which Frey says are “extremely important for the water cycle”. Contrastingly, at Paul Jaboulet Aîné there is abundant forest, which is essential for promoting biodiversity. Of course, there are similarities, too, between the estates. Frey says she has witnessed more frequent episodes of frost and hail in all regions in the past few years, but the fact that in the Rhône Valley the vineyard is dispersed, rather than from a single block like at La Lagune, means that damage there from these particular climatic extremes is limited. It’s the risk of drought that concerns her most. “Even though 2021 was a rather rainy vintage, drought is now an established and proven trend. This is perhaps our biggest challenge: to ensure that the water resources are adequate for the vine to function properly until harvest. Only the soil can play this reservoir role,” she says. Frey staunchly maintains that maturity must come from the plant and not from the mechanical effects of heat, for example. “A soil that has a good amount of humus inside it is capable of retaining water like a sponge and releasing it when necessary. For this, biodynamic viticulture helps us a lot.” On the topic of drought, one might reasonably imagine that the very stony soils of the hilly Hermitage vineyard, with its fully southern exposure, may become too dry or too hot to produce fine wine before long. “Think again. It is not by accident that these are considered great terroirs,” says Frey triumphantly. “It is all in the soil, which allows the vine to sink its roots very deep into the ground, to wrap itself around the pebbles, thus increasing its surface exchanges, to find water in limestone concretions formed under the stones by bacteria, or in deep clays.” Conversely, in cooler, wetter vintages such as 2021, the impressive capacity of the stony soil on the hillsides of La Chapelle to drain so well was crucial. “The white wines in particular were able to take advantage of this to develop excellent balance and intense aromatics,” says Frey.
The barrel room at Château La Lagune It’s clear that Frey trusts deeply in the natural resilience of the soils, and it is for this reason that she deliberately tries to be as hands-off as possible. “During periods of drought and heat we leave the vines alone, so as not to stress them even more. The key is the organic-matter resource. By limiting the working of the soil, we avoid a rapid mineralisation,” she says. “The addition of biodynamic compost and the grinding (broyage) of the vine shoots makes it possible to restore organic matter. We sow green fertilisers in the autumn, and lay them down in the spring using the Mexican method of the faca roller (to encourage their composting). The aim is to preserve soil quality while at the same time nourishing it.”Frey sees great potential in the use of organic-indicator plants for helping growers to understand what the soil needs and when. “That is just one of a number of new techniques we are starting to use,” she reveals. “We are also trimming less, and leaving more foliage around grape bunches to maintain shade. We use certain preparations, such as silica, after the harvest, which help to reinforce the vines’ natural reserves to help them regenerate through the winter. It’s all about the small details; together they make a difference.” In short: “Viticulture must be an accompaniment to nature, and not a struggle against it”. Yet, at the same time, Frey concedes that “each year we need a fair dose of good fortune if we are not to lose our harvest.”  

SMALLER GRAPES

Frey has noticed the grapes on her estates now tend to be smaller with thicker skins. “Accordingly, we have greatly reduced the extraction we seek, with less frequent and gentler pumping over and pigeage. Almost all of our extraction is now achieved simply through natural maceration. This gives a fabulous texture to the wine,” she says. Following detailed research and development, Frey is confident that organic and biodynamic wines taste different from one other. “We have carried out extensive comparative trial tests in the vineyard, then vinified the trials separately until bottling. This has allowed us, over a sustained period of time, to regularly blind taste the different modalities. The results are clear. We have a consistent and strong preference for biodynamic wines. They are purer, more luminous, more radiant, and fresher,”she says. Looking to the next 10 years, Frey suspects her greatest anxieties will be about climate change. But she remains confident that she will find a solution, as she has done so many times before. “Nature is full of resources and so are we.”

Caroline Frey at a glance

After graduating from Bordeaux University, Frey took the helm of her family-owned Bordeaux estate Château La Lagune in 2004. When her family bought Paul Jaboulet Aîné in the Rhône Valley, in 2006, and Château Corton in Burgundy, in 2014, Frey was tasked with making wine on all three estates, a task she took on with relish, initiating organic and biodynamic practices to encourage healthier soils. She also manages a private vineyard in Valais, Switzerland. In 2017, Frey received the Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite, awarded for her work in agriculture, viticulture and the environment, as well as the protection of birds in her wine estates. In 2021, Frey won The Amorim Biodiversity Award at The Drinks Business Green Awards 2021 for her team’s work at Paul Jaboulet Aîné, and in the 2022 iteration of the same awards, she was commended for her work in benefiting the richness of species at Château La Lagune.
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The Big Interview: Kylie Minogue https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/12/the-big-interview-december-2022-kylie-minogue/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/12/the-big-interview-december-2022-kylie-minogue/#respond Tue, 13 Dec 2022 15:38:26 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=554799 Having launched her wine range in 2020 to huge acclaim, Kylie Minogue is now releasing an alcohol-free pink fizz.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/12/the-big-interview-december-2022-kylie-minogue/feed/ 0 Having launched her wine range in 2020 to huge acclaim, Kylie Minogue is now releasing an alcohol-free pink fizz. It's been a busy couple of years for Kylie Minogue. The last time the drinks business caught up with the pop princess, in June 2020, she had just launched her first rosé in the midst of lockdown. Now Kylie Minogue Wines has grown into a successful eight-strong range, with a presence in 21 countries and off-trade sales of £21.6 million a year. The singer has sold over seven million bottles of wine around the world, with someone snapping up a bottle every seven seconds. According to Paul Schaafsma of Benchmark Drinks – the mastermind behind the brand – Kylie’s Prosecco Rosé and Signature Rosé are the top-selling pinks in the UK in their field. The speed and scale of the range’s success is nothing short of staggering, but Kylie, who last year relocated from London to her hometown of Melbourne, Australia, seems to be taking it all in her stride. “I take all of those stats with a pinch of salt,” she says. “We’re doing well enough to keep going, and have really bedded in now. We got off to a great start, which is not something I expected would happen as I was dipping my toe into a new field. We planted the seed of the idea and the little seedlings are growing, but we really have to tend the plot now and nurture what we’ve got.”

SUPPORTIVE REACTION

Having launched with a Vin de France Rosé, the Kylie Minogue Wines range now includes a Prosecco Rosé, Margaret River Chardonnay, Yarra Valley Pinot, and a Côtes de Provence Cru Classé Rosé made in collaboration with Château Sainte Roseline. Despite the brand’s stonking success, Minogue was wary of how her foray into the wine world would be received. “I was quite nervous about entering the industry, as I didn’t want to upset anyone, or for anyone to feel like I was gatecrashing, but people have been very supportive of me and the range,” she says. While some celebrities have little more involvement in their drinks brands than adding their name to the label, Minogue puts in the hard yards, and will be brightening the aisles at ProWein in Düsseldorf next year, where she’ll be taking a stand in the French hall. Keen to create an inclusive wine brand that doesn’t leave anyone out of the conversation, and spotting a gap in the market, the singer ’s latest release is a 0%-ABV sparkling rosé, which she hopes will ride the wave of the current ‘nolo’ boom sweeping the globe. Coming in at just 22 calories per 100ml, Kylie’s Alcohol Free Rosé launched in October at 700 Tesco stores in the UK, priced at £7 a bottle, and will be rolled out at Morrisons and Sainsbury’s in time for Dry January. “The interest in and desire for a high-quality non-alcoholic wine was becoming increasingly evident,” she says. “I’d had a lot of messages from younger fans and fans that don’t drink who wanted to be part of the KMW family, so I wanted to explore whether an alcohol-free wine was something we could do, not quite understanding how difficult that would be to achieve.” The decision to create a sparkling rosé in the nolo space was obvious. “The biggest hits for us have been rosé, and it became apparent during the R&D process that it would be easier to create a like-for-like non-alcoholic wine if we went down the sparkling route, so we set out to make something people would enjoy that gave them the flavour sensation of wine without the alcohol.”
Taking around 20 iterations to get right, Minogue reveals it was the most challenging wine in her range to create. “The mid-palate can sometimes be missing in alcohol-free wines, which are often too sweet, and I couldn’t put my name to that. We did a tasting in New York and it wasn’t quite there, so we dialed down the sweetness a bit to a level I was happy with. Tasting it in bottle for the first time was an exciting moment. I was a bit nervous; I’m not going to lie. We had it at breakfast with croissants, which was the perfect way to enjoy it.” The sparkler looks set to feature prominently at the Minogue family Christmas in Australia this year. “I’ll definitely be drinking it on Boxing Day, and my nephews might want to feel grown up and have a glass on Christmas Day. I’ve got a gig in Dubai on New Year ’s Eve, so it will be on my rider for that too. It works for so many drinking occasions, whether you’re sobercurious, doing Dry January, or just fancy a night off.” The sparkler’s booze-free status makes it a shoo-in for dry countries where alcohol is banned, and Schaafsma has already been approached by two major Middle Eastern airlines to stock it on board. Seeking to elevate zero-ABV serves, Minogue wanted the fizz to feel like as much of a treat as an alcoholic sparkling wine, so those who buy it don’t feel like they’re being shortchanged, or are missing out on the sense of occasion. “I want people to drink it in their best Champagne glasses,” she says. “You get to pop the cork and the colour is gorgeous, so it still feels utterly celebratory. With all of the wines in my range and all of my shows, I value people’s time and their experience of one of my products. Be it a song, a wine, or coming to see a show, I really care about the end result, and didn’t want this to feel like an afterthought – I wanted people to be able to join the party.”

Zero compromise – how Kylie’s alcohol-free fizz is made

While alcohol-free beers have done a great job in mirroring the taste and texture of their boozy counterparts, zero-ABV wine has struggled thus far to hit the target, with many ending up far too sweet as producers seek to compensate for the lack of alcohol with sugar. Keen to take a different approach, Paul Schaafsma, the brains behind Benchmark Drinks, shunned the reverse-osmosis and spinning-cone techniques of extracting the alcohol out of a regular wine in favour of something closer to a kombucha. It begins with a base of organic Spanish grapes that are fermented with “good bacteria” – rather than yeast, which creates alcohol – to which a strong infusion of green tea from Yunnan province in China is added to fill out the mid palate, adding flavour, structure and tannin. Made in Germany, the result is a refreshing fizz, bursting with notes of ripe strawberries, with a pleasing tartness on the palate. It’s an incredibly moreish sparkler that has you reaching for a second glass, and succeeds where other alcoholfree wines have failed in keeping the sugar levels in check. “We spent over a year developing the product, as we wanted to put flavour first and create something in keeping with the rest of the range that delivers all the sensations you’re looking for in a wine,” says Schaafsma. “When you extract the alcohol from a wine you also strip out the flavour and structure, and are left with something hollow that needs a lot of sugar to make up for the lack of character. We didn’t want this, so we went down a different route. It still looks special and has a fine mousse, which brings a lovely clean feeling, and puts it very much on the luxury side of zero-ABV drinks. We’ve taken a premium position on the price too, but the liquid inside the bottle and the packaging justify the £7 price tag, as it was a complex product to create.”
To that end, the packaging of the 0% fizz is as premium as her pink Prosecco, as is the level of detail, from the signed cork and pale pink cage to the silver neck foil, so nothing is taken away from the ritual of the sparkling wine experience. Making a splash in the fast-growing ‘nolo’ category is a savvy move. According to a 2022 IWSR study, the sector has a global retail sales value of just under US$10 billion (£8.3bn), and is forecast to have a volume compound annual growth rate of 7% between 2021 and 2026. Growth in the UK looks set to be larger, at 30% over the same period. In tandem with the explosion of the category has been a shift in consumers’ drinking habits, with mental health now the number-one driver for cutting back on booze. Interestingly, the ‘nolo’ category is seeing the biggest growth from drinkers seeking to reduce their alcohol intake by occasionally going alcohol-free – the IWSR study found that 82% of people who have tried ‘nolo’ products drink alcohol. With Millennials and Gen Z consumers prioritising their health and wellbeing, Minogue believes the stigma around not drinking has lifted. “So many of us are leaning into self-care now. I don’t think there’s a stigma around not drinking anymore, and it’s important that people who aren’t drinking have a good option where they don’t feel like they’ve got the kids’ drink at the end of the table.” Having expanded the brand’s footprint around the globe, from Barbados to Belgium, this summer Kylie took her wines stateside through a partnership with Southern Wines & Spirits, launching the range at the Carlyle Hotel in New York with a performance at legendary live music venue, Café Carlyle. Not one to rest on her laurels, the singer has her sights firmly fixed on the future, and would love to add a Champagne to the range to complement her still French rosés. “A pink Champagne would be amazing, obviously. It’s the longest conversation Paul and I have had. We’re exploring our options right now, as it all comes down to finding the right partner,” she says.
With the world having opened up again, Kylie has been busy making up for lost time, paying visits to her partner estates, including Howard Park and De Bortoli in Australia, and Zonin in northern Italy, which produces her pink Prosecco. “It’s been great to meet the makers behind the wines and be shown their latest toys and gadgets. The more I learn about wine the more I realise there is to learn. It’s been pretty daunting at times, but I’ve been welcomed by the industry with open arms. I don’t know how long I’ll say I’m a beginner in wine, but it will be a while,” she says. “I’m reading Andrew Jefford’s new book, where he describes wine so wonderfully, and the fact that there are so many aspects to it, from history, humanity and science to nature. It’s the mystical part of wine that I’ll always be trying to grasp, but perhaps you never do, which is what makes it so fascinating.” With celebrity wines – and particularly celebrity rosé – enjoying its moment in the sun, Minogue, who is putting the finishing touches on a new “feelgood” music album, admits there is some friendly rivalry between her and fellow singers Gary Barlow and Jon Bon Jovi for the most popular celebrity pink. Have the three of them got together to compare notes? “Not yet, but I wouldn’t mind a trip to the Hamptons,” Kylie jokes. “Jon can sing and I’ll do the harmonies.”

Kylie uncorked

THE SIGNATURE RANGE

Kylie Minogue Rose 2021 Vin de France (£9) Made from equal amounts of Carignan, Grenache, and Cinsault, this salmon pink rosé was kept on its lees for three months for added depth. Crisp, zesty and refreshing, it boasts notes of pink grapefruit, watermelon and lemon blossom. Kylie Minogue Sauvignon Blanc 2021 IGP Côtes de Gascogne (£9) A modern take on Sauvignon Blanc, the grapes were harvested at night and gently pressed to ensure freshness. The textured wine, which spends four months on its lees, offers zesty notes of lime blossom, apple and gooseberry. Kylie Minogue Prosecco Rosé NV (£12) Made in collaboration with Zonin, from 85% Glera and 15% Pinot Nero, sourced from limestone-rich soils in the Gambellara hills, this brightly textured, 11%-ABV pale pink fizz offers notes of fresh strawberries, raspberries and white flowers. Kylie Minogue Alcohol Free Sparkling Rosé (£7) This innovative drop is made from a blend of organic grapes fermented with ‘good bacteria’ and a green tea infusion for added body and tannin. The result is a refreshing, balanced fizz with notes of fresh strawberries and a dry finish.

THE COLLECTION (SINGLE ESTATE WINES)

Kylie Minogue Cô tes de Provence Rosé 2021 (£14) Made from 62% Grenache, 30% Cinsault, 7% Syrah and 1% Rolle, grown on shale and clay soils at Château des Anglades near St Tropez, France, this complex rosé boasts notes of pink grapefruit, apricot and citrus, and has a long, vibrant finish. Kylie Minogue Margaret River Chardonnay 2019 (£20) This layered, creamy Chardonnay is made in collaboration with Howard Park, with grapes from the southern reaches of Margaret River that are aged in French oak, and offers alluring notes of peach, pear, honeysuckle and hazelnuts. Kylie Minogue Yarra Valley Pinot Noir 2020 (£25) Crafted through a partnership with Yarra Valley’s De Bortoli, this ruby red Pinot is sourced from a selection of cooler sites from the producer ’s premium estates and spends nine months in oak, offering notes of red berries and gentle spice. Kylie Minogue Cru Classé Côtes de Provence Rosé 2021 (£30) Kylie’s top drop is made at cru classé estate, Château Sainte Roseline, from a blend of 40% Grenache, 30% Cinsault, 15% Mourvèdre, 10% Syrah, and 5% Tibouren, grown on mineral-rich soils on the Côte d’Azur. This layered, lively pink is redolent with notes of white flowers, apricot and pink grapefruit.
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The Big Interview: Enrique Pascual https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/11/the-big-interview-db-meets-enrique-pascal/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/11/the-big-interview-db-meets-enrique-pascal/#respond Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:08:56 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=551395 Enrique Pascual, president of the Ribera del Duero DO, tells db about the region’s unshakable spirit, and the excellent potential of its whites this year.

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Enrique Pascual, president of the Ribera del Duero DO, tells Sarah Neish about the region’s unshakable spirit, and the excellent potential of its whites this year.

You have to be made of stern stuff to become a winemaker in Spain’s Ribera del Duero. One of the highest altitude winemaking regions in Europe, Ribera has a brutal climate, with temperatures plummeting to -10ºC in winter. Frosts are a constant threat, and a colourful local expression sums it up rather astutely when it claims that Ribera has “nine months of winter, and three months of hell”. Making wine there is challenging enough, but to lead the region’s winemakers from the front one must also be, I suspect, an eternal optimist. “My grandfather, my father, and my whole family have always dedicated themselves to the cultivation of vines and I’ve lived in vineyards since I was born,” says Enrique Pascual, who since 2013 has been president of the Consejo Regulador de la Denominación de Origen Ribera del Duero. “The love for this job and the legacy that I’ve inherited have led me to become who I am today.” This is Pascual’s second term as president, having ridden out a longer-than-usual first tenure (seven years instead of five) due to an extension granted following the Covid pandemic. His latest inauguration, in December 2021, coincided with the publication of the balance sheet for the region’s 2021 financial year, which showed a record-breaking result for the Ribera del Duero DO, with more than 100 million bottles distributed in the preceding 12 months. During his custodianship, Pascual, who also owns Ribera winery Bodegas Pascual, has guided the DO through some truly shocking instances. In 2017, many of the region’s winemakers lost 50% of their crop to frost, where it was so cold that wineries lit bonfires in the fields to warm workers. Then in June 2021, a series of violent hailstorms swept across France and Spain, with Ribera del Duero one of the worst-hit regions. According to Spanish newspaper El Norte de Castilla, 2,000 hectares of Ribera vines were damaged, representing 10% of the region’s number, with the lion’s share of the havoc wreaked around the town of Pesquera de Duero. During this climatic anomaly – where hailstones the size of fists rained down on vineyards – Vega Sicilia, one of the fine wine jewels in Ribera’s crown, suffered severe damage to a 32-hectare vineyard used for its premium Alión wine. It was a dramatic precursor to the DO marking its 40th anniversary this year, and almost, but not quite, stole the limelight away from the preparations for the celebration. “This is just the beginning,” says Pascual brightly. “Celebrating 40 years of the Ribera del Duero Designation of Origin has brought great satisfaction, because I am at the helm of a family that is united, excited, and proud to see that great goals are being achieved. We are a national benchmark, present in more than 100 countries, and recognised the world over for the quality of our wines. Celebrating this success together has been wonderful.” Pascual says that “the great secret of our winemakers” is that they know the characteristics of Ribera’s soils perfectly. “They know how the grapes will evolve, they create the perfect vineyards, and tease the greatest expression out of each varietal. Such exhaustive knowledge allows us to make wines with our own identity.” Wine critic Tim Atkin MW echoed this sentiment last year when he attributed Ribera del Duero’s enormous potential for fine wines to the region’s “mosaic” of soils. Such is the diversity in the region’s terroir – from “blindingly white limestone” to sandy clay and alluvial, that Atkin called for the DO to produce a detailed soil map charting Ribera’s estimated 30 or so soil types to help consumers understand exactly what they are tasting. According to Atkin, the quality of Ribera’s fine wines is down to producers “blending across the region”, essentially cherry picking from this rich tapestry of soil types to create something extraordinary.
Pascual believes that “all wines from Ribera del Duero fit into the category of fine wines, or quality wines”. But what position does he see the region’s wines occupying in the wider landscape of Spanish fine wine? “There are many great wines in Spain; the winemaking tradition of our country is our calling card, but we are not competitors. Each DO seeks its own place and presents itself differently to the consumer, who knows how to differentiate between them,” he insists. However, there can be little question that established wineries from other Spanish regions are starting to move into Ribera, establishing their own operations there, and looking to benefit from the typicity of its terroir. One such outfit is Rioja’s Bodegas Riojanas, which this year launched its Alacer range of wines made from grapes grown in the Ribera municipalities of Sta. Cruz de la Salceda and Vadocondes, in plots at more than 900m altitude. Riojanas readily admits it bows to the expertise of local winemakers to produce this wine, as the area is uncharted territory for the neighbouring winery. “Ribera del Duero has its own characteristics that determine the personality of its wines,” explains Pascual, who seems nonplussed about the arrival of outsiders. “Our climate is very particular, extreme and intense, giving way to powerful fine wines, bursting with flavour. The way we make our wines, the management of the ageing, and the hands of our professionals create inimitable wines, which are the complete expression of the soils in which they were born.”
Ribera del Duero sits on a mesa, or high mountain plain, with altitudes of between 701m and 1,097m above sea level. Because of this, Tempranillo grapes from Ribera tend to have thicker skins, and more intense, concentrated flavours, than their counterparts in nearby Rioja, for example. Ribera wines are largely based around Tempranillo (called Tinto Fino or Tinta del Pais locally), with around 23,000 hectares of the DO’s total 24,000 hectares planted with the variety. A wine must contain a 75% minimum of Tempranillo to be part of the DO. It’s for these reasons, and more, that the region has become synonymous with powerful reds, but one of the most intriguing changes to take place under Pascual’s leadership was the incorporation in 2019 of the white Albillo Mayor grape variety under the DO banner, a decision he says is paying off, as evidenced by the “excellent quality potential” it is showing in the 2022 harvest. Pascual calls Albillo Mayor “a very special native variety that’s difficult to work with, but with a huge potential that we have only just begun to discover. There is real enthusiasm around this grape, and the white wines being made from it are complex, and with very limited production. We will surely see a growth in our whites, but it will be slow and measured, because we are not striving for quantity, but looking to preserve a variety that is part of our local heritage.” Ribera del Duero saw an early harvest this year, which began on 30 August. “It was interrupted by some rain, but overall, it progressed well,” says Pascual. “After a very hot, dry summer, which caused a delay in the ripening cycle, the September rains were a blessing. The grapes picked are healthy, of high quality and will certainly lead to great wines, with potential for laying down.”

FIGHTING SPIRIT

The fighting spirit in Ribera del Duero is what sets it apart from other Spanish winemaking regions. “We are very clear that we cannot change our way of being; of making and understanding wine. That’s what makes us special and authentic,” says Pascual. This trademark tenacity is helping Ribera winemakers weather a different storm; the geopolitical situation sparked by the war in Ukraine, triggering a spike in energy prices, shipping delays, and difficulties in getting hold of raw materials. In comparison with some other leading figures in the trade, Pascual seems sanguine about what might lie ahead. “Of course, we are no strangers to what is happening in the world, and our main concern as human beings is the social stability and wellbeing of the population. From there, the rest can be overcome,” he says resolutely. “In Ribera del Duero, we already live with an extreme climate that makes things very challenging, so we are used to overcoming obstacles. We will face the different scenarios of this crisis with courage and without ever losing the desire to move forward. But it is clear that we are not in a good time. The situation is worrying and it will affect us.” Nor can climate change rain on Pascual’s parade, though that’s not to say the DO isn’t taking strict measures to protect against it. Safeguarding the region’s old vines, which are at risk from increasingly violent weather patterns, has become a top priority. “Our older vineyards have been assigned enormous value, and we consider these to be great treasures,” says Pascual. “Our growers and winemakers are very attentive to the consequences of climate change, and we try to avoid these old vineyards wherever possible when it comes to any new plantings, focusing on higher altitudes or terroirs in which the effect of increasingly extreme weather patterns is less acutely felt.”
Everyone is willing to pull together and do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of these invaluable assets, a steely outlook that is nothing new for the DO’s tightknit community.
“Ribera del Duero was born as a project of the people, who together with the authorities, managed to convert a rural region historically linked to vines and vineyards, into a quality brand,” says Pasqual proudly. “The DO was born in 1982, after an overwhelming amount of work to give value to the grapes, the vineyard and the winemaking tradition. In those early years, there were only a dozen wineries, a number that leapt to 100 within a decade. Ribera del Duero soon received support from the Spanish hospitality sector, and, consequently, from consumers the world over.” Indeed, the on-trade has been an unwavering supporter of the DO’s wines, with Pascual calling it “our greatest ally”. The sector, he believes, “values and recognises what we have to offer, and therefore our wines have a prominent presence on the menus of restaurants and hotels all over the world”. So having blown out 40 candles on the cake this year, what are the DO’s plans for the next 40 years? “Our main objective is to continue growing in foreign markets. To present our work, our identity and what we do to consumers around the world,” says Pascual. He also highlights that the DO is “living through a revolution of our rosés, or claretes as they are traditionally called here. We are seeing wines with different colour ranges, different ageing times, even claret reservas. In essence, they are a creative expression, and the consumer is very much enjoying this new face of Ribera del Duero.”
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The Big Interview: Emma McClarkin OBE https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/10/the-big-interview-emma-mcclarkin-obe/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/10/the-big-interview-emma-mcclarkin-obe/#comments Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:11:56 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=547959 With mounting costs for the sector, British Beer & Pub Association CEO Emma McClarkin OBE tells Jessica Mason about navigating 'the new normal'.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/10/the-big-interview-emma-mcclarkin-obe/feed/ 1 With mounting costs for the sector, British Beer & Pub Association CEO Emma McClarkin OBE tells Jessica Mason about navigating 'the new normal'. On the other side of the frosted glass panes of UK pub doors lives not just a historical institution but the nation’s favourite drink. Those cask hand pulls and keg taps adorned with badges on the bars of the country’s pubs represent so many social freedoms. The public house is a home for all. It is place where society comes together to relax and chat about the day. With each sip from a nonic glass, the world is set to rights. Discrediting the importance of beer and pubs is perilous. Just ask Emma McClarkin, who in September 2019 took over the role of CEO at the British Beer & Pub Association (BBPA) from Brigid Simmonds, who had been at the helm for a decade. Those shoes must have seemed big to fill. Yet, throw in Brexit negotiations and a global pandemic and the job became not just huge, but fundamental. “In the brewing industry, we create more jobs than the distilling industry and wine industry put together in this country,” says McClarkin, explaining that she was approached by the BBPA to take on the role, with them essentially saying, “it’s got to be you”. A fan of amber ale, McClarkin’s genuine love of beer and pubs is evident, as she notes how she’s keen on beers from both Bath Ales and Harvey’s Brewery from Lewes, East Sussex. She reveals that her job leading the BBPA was “made for me, in many ways”, insisting that she only chooses to work on things that she is genuinely passionate about. As a British Conservative Party politician who served as a member of the European Parliament for the East Midlands region for 10 years before accepting the position with the BBPA, McClarkin was, as a spokesperson for international trade, already an excellent negotiator. “After politics, I was going to have to fall into one of my passions, and this role is absolutely that. It makes my job all the more meaningful,” she says. But just as she donned the proverbial hat, the pub and beer sector was suddenly thrown into crisis. Little did McClarkin know that she would become vital to an industry’s survival. In the past few years, what we’ve witnessed has been a completely changing landscape for beer in pubs. Everything in terms of legislation has had to move so quickly,” she explains. “The role I took on in November 2019 is very different from the one I actually ended up with. I was called on to steer and navigate the industry through Brexit, which at that point was the big crisis. Little did I know that an even bigger crisis (the Covid-19 pandemic) was just around the corner.” Recalling those early moments, McClarkin remembers how it all unfolded in “a baptism of fire” just weeks after taking up office but observes how those challenges amplified “exactly why the BBPA exists”. “We are here to advocate on behalf of the industry, and make sure that its voice and its concerns stand out loud and clear. People felt very, very lost, and the BBPA really helped to give them the guidance and support they needed to get through the pandemic. I hope that we will continue to do so,” she adds. However, she says “the crisis hasn’t come to an end”, and there is still “lots to negotiate”. She explains: “We still need detail on the level of the cap as soon as possible, but we’re hopeful this will help thousands of business owners breathe easier in the coming months.”
The lobbying doesn’t end there, either. McClarkin believes that the industry is “facing very strong headwinds now with supply-chain pressures, price inflation, cost of living, and the energy crisis”. She admits: “It really doesn’t feel that we’ve stopped firefighting. We’ve been under this incredible tax burden for so many years. We need to make sure that we can bring that tax burden down to make these businesses viable for the future.”
She warns: “We need urgent relief on energy rates. Without it, businesses will fail. So everything else that we have been trying to do in keeping these businesses alive during the pandemic – in finding a pathway through to recovery and into sustainable growth – none of that will matter if the energy bill hikes sink those businesses.” McClarkin hints that while the government needs to tackle rates and VAT, it must also “keep beer duty low”. Her proudest moments involve the support that has been won for the sector so far. At a crucial time for beer and pubs, “maintaining that drumbeat and media attention” has been fundamental. “Throughout the crisis, we got more than £8 billion together in support for the sector, which recognised the role we play,” McClarkin says, pinpointing how significant that has been for the longevity of the industry. However, as the nation gradually reemerged after the series of lockdowns, to news of a war in Ukraine and soaring energy costs, its resilience was further rocked last month by the news that Queen Elizabeth II had died, leaving Britain in a state of emotional volatility. It needs its pubs now more than ever. “Along with the nation and the world, we were deeply saddened to hear of the passing of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II,” says McClarkin, pointing out that “her reign and duty to the country has been extraordinary, and on behalf of our members, we have passed on condolences to the Royal Family”. McClarkin also says the association will be working with the nation’s pubs and brewers to pay its respects in communities across the country. There is, she reveals, “no such thing as a normal day” at the BBPA. When parliament is in session, there is regular engagement with politicians, following up with all government officials in the background, and preparing submissions. “Whether they’ve asked for consultations or not, we will keep putting them through,” she says. At the moment, she is very busy, she says, saying her job interconnects so many livelihoods that the organisation needs to keep listening to stay ahead and raise issues of pub and brewery businesses of all sizes. “The BBPA is a really broad church. We’ve got big players, we’ve got small players, we’ve got people with thousands of pubs. We’ve got people with a handful of pubs. So we represent the full size and scale of the industry. And it’s our job to be worrying about how we can create the best regulatory environment for their businesses to survive so that they can get on with running them,” she explains. McClarkin says publicans and brewers need more recognition for what they offer local communities, that their businesses are much bigger than beer and more about hope. “We’re doing all we can from our side of the industry, but we need the government to recognise the role that beer and pubs play, not only economically, but socially in those communities, and that pubs and brewers are key economic and social infrastructure assets which need to be maintained for society and communities. Without pubs we would all be poorer.” McClarkin describes how the hardships breweries face are not going away, and the industry needs to be protected. She reveals how “hundreds of thousands of people have been calling for support and recognition for the pub, but it is really difficult for our brewers right now because their costs have gone through the roof. The prices of raw materials are going up, and the reality is that it’s a very complex situation.” Pubs have, historically, supported the nation’s tourism industry too. Losing any of them is a huge loss for all. “I know that one of the top 10 things that people want to do when they come to the UK is go to a great British pub, and have a British beer,” she says, identifying how that element of Britishness is as revered and admired as it is quaint and historical.

The BBPA’s biggest wins of the past year

• Gaining additional support for the sector throughout the pandemic totalling over £8.2bn. • Launching its EDI Charter and setting BBPA members on the road to net zero. • Gaining recognition for beer as a low-volume alcohol drink of moderation, and Alcohol Duty reform that supports Britain’s pubs and brewers. • The BBPA has become very agile as a team while managing the industry through one of the biggest crises it has ever faced, all while managing to lead and champion innovation and diversity in the sector, as well as sustainability and digital transformation. • During McClarkin’s period of leadership, the BBPA has also increased its membership.
Despite all of its history, one of the best advancements has been recognising the beer and pub sector actively changing perceptions of women within the industry, and to this end McClarkin has played an essential role in moving things forwards. “When you look at the makeup of our workforce in pubs it’s 54% women, so it’s really about trying to break the perception,” she says. “Lots of people love beer, not just men. It appeals to a multitude of people across the board.” In terms of representing minorities, the BBPA is committed to “looking forwards and being inclusive by investing in diversity and representing all people. This means making sure that we truly reflect that inside our businesses, as well as within our venues,” she adds.“The pub is the ultimate melting pot of everyone in society, and that’s why it’s so special.” Another change since McClarkin took over as CEO has been the burst in growth from the no- and low-alcohol beer category. With the calibre of options growing in quality all the time, “the potential of that market is now vast,” she says. But rather than viewing it as a threat to the industry, she insists there is headroom for no and low to grow alongside other beer offerings in pubs. “We are looking to the future, and the competency of brewers who can now brew the tastiest non-alcoholic beers. The quality has gone up,” she admits, adding: “Some of them really stand up, and they’re refreshing drinks. I’m proud that we have that innovation in our sector because it is extremely difficult to brew beer with no alcohol and with the level of taste that our consumers expect, so I’m really excited about the future. I hope that we see more in venues soon, because giving people these new options is great.” In terms of other plans, McClarkin reveals that there are “many other things that we want to achieve at the BBPA” and hints that it is “modernising” and “innovating” as well as “looking at electronic data interchange and sustainability and how we can green our industry even more than we already have done”. She believes that one constant will be the incredible relationship that marries beer and pubs. She observes: “The beer and pub industry go together like hand in glove. They’re symbiotic. You can’t have a pub without beer, or it just isn’t a pub,” she adds: “It’s a unique relationship”.
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The Big Interview: Elena Carretero https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/09/the-big-interview-elena-carretero/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/09/the-big-interview-elena-carretero/#respond Tue, 13 Sep 2022 11:31:36 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=544483 For Elena Carretero, sustainability director of Santa Rita Estates, caring for communities is every bit as important as nurturing soils, finds Sarah Neish.

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For Elena Carretero, sustainability director of Santa Rita Estates, caring for communities is every bit as important as nurturing soils, finds Sarah Neish.

  Pushing open the heavy wooden doors of a chapel squirrelled away amid fragrant magnolia and almond trees in Santa Rita Estates’ lush Centenario Park, a curtain of silence falls. Standing on the threshold it’s easy to imagine all those who have perched in the wooden pews during the past 137 years, staring up at the richly painted frescoes, and pondering where life would take them in the coming years. Outside of these walls, Chile has seen civil war rage, economic depression descend, and furious earthquakes carve up the country, but inside this place of sanctuary, candles have always been lit, and quiet prayers muttered, regardless of what has unfolded without. The historic importance of buildings such as these is one of the first things that struck Elena Carretero when she was approached to work with Santa Rita Estates (SRE). “I fell in love with the place,” she says. “The conservation and restoration of the heritage buildings, including the chapel (declared of historical importance to Chile in 1972) and of the vineyards were amazing. I have still to this day never been to such a place, in private hands, with this level of conservation.” Brought on board in 2011 to spearhead an ambitious new sustainability programme, which would come to underpin everything that SRE does, Carretero took to her task with something approaching religious zeal. At the top of her list was ensuring that those who lived and worked in Santa Rita’s wine estates and their surrounding communities would be able to continue enjoying its historical significance for years to come. “I saw the role as a unique opportunity to build the image of Santa Rita based on its culture and heritage,” Carretero says. “At the beginning, 11 years ago, it was not easy because Chile considered everything historical to be ‘old fashioned’, and everyone wanted to build something new and modern. But I presented a proposal combining both tradition and modernity, and proving that this hybrid model could be successful.” This marriage of past, present, and future fitted perfectly with the notion of sustainability; a nuance that is far from lost on Carretero. “I think we have a huge responsibility, not only at SRE but within the broader wine industry, to emphasise the value of wine culture,” she says. “I do feel pressure because I’m compelled to educate people on this centuries-old tradition that is starting to be lost, even in areas that have been producing wine for a long time. For me wine is culture. It has been in the history of humanity since 5,000 BC, and has developed economic activity in a lot of territories.” The idea of the cultural value of winemaking gradually disappearing is linked to a creeping urbanisation, and the fact that many children whose parents and grandparents have picked grapes and made wine for SRE and other producers, are increasingly tempted by the bright lights of big cities, where unpredictable weather and powdery mildew are low down on their list of concerns. “As a planet we are facing a very fast change in terms of rural environments morphing into urban ones,” says Carretero.“This is largely due to land use change, housing development, and things like these. At SRE, we want to enhance the rural identity of Chile, and show young people that the wine industry, and services related to wine tourism, is a real option to grow in professional terms.” Very often when businesses talk about sustainability, the emphasis is placed on the land itself, and on climate change in particular. But SRE stands out for putting people first. Human beings, Carretero believes, are the key to unlocking a more sustainable future. Rather than focusing on the soils, it’s more about faces. It all starts with them.
“Being part of the agriculture world provides that special link with the land we are in, and people, of course, are a big part of this,” she says. “SRE has always had a unique and specific focus on family. We don’t see our workers as single units, but as part of something bigger.” Up until the 1960s, SRE had more than 60 families living inside its winery in Alto Jahuel, nestled in the foothills of the Andes. The main wine estate included houses, a maternity ward, a school, and even a theatre. “Some of our current colleagues were born here, and continue to be part of our family, so we appreciate and value this as part of our style as a company,” says Carretero. To this end, Carretero has been instrumental in developing what she calls SRE’s ‘Territorial Valorization’ programme. Essentially, it’s about fostering a sense of pride in the area in which children live, in the hope of inspiring the next generation of winemakers, rather than losing them to office jobs in big cities far from the land they grew up on. The premise is to get kids fired up about how they can get involved in the wine industry, whether that’s through working in the vineyards or welcoming visitors via hospitality and oenotourism, an area in which SRE is blazing a trail. The wine group recently achieved “outstanding”status in wine tourism, as part of its Chilean Wine Sustainability Code certification.
Park life: the lush Centenario Park on Viña Santa Rita’s Buin estate “Territorial valorization is the process of assigning value to the identity of a region, and to the cultural, historical and natural aspects of that place, as well as to any economic activity that is special to that area, such as winemaking,” says Carretero. “I firmly believe that what we don’t know about we don’t value. And what we don’t value we don’t take care of. It’s why we designed this programme to educate children about their own territory; to create a sense of pride in it.” For the past 10 years SRE has worked with neighbouring schools to incorporate aspects of wine culture into their curriculums. Workshops, facilitated by SRE, take place in the classroom, and local students are also invited to take part in the harvest at the winery. “It’s one of my favourite moments of the year,” says Carretero. “The students visit the vineyard to harvest and crush grapes to obtain the must, which is then bottled. You can’t imagine the happiness of that moment, when they are working as team, smashing the grapes with their feet. At the end they do a presentation for their school showing all the different things they have learned.” One of the many meaningful goals Carretero wanted to achieve with the project was for children to have the chance to put themselves in the shoes of their parents, many of whom have worked with SRE for decades. “The kids start to become aware of the value of winemaking, and they begin to realise the importance of their region – the Maipo Valley – which is visited by around 160,000 tourists per year.” Inside the classroom, SRE’s team tirelessly helps teachers convey the history of winemaking, from the earliest references, dating back to Georgia in 5,000 BC, all the way through to modern-day winemaking in Maipo. “The students even study winemaking in language, looking at texts and poetry related to wine,” says Carretero. “It’s been challenging to adapt our concepts in an easy and fun way to connect with our young audience.” Rather touchingly, whether or not students decide to enter the world of wine professionally or not, SRE is there to help and advise them on their next steps in terms of career path. “For the past seven years, we have delivered more than 90 scholarships to our people, worth around CLP$160 million (£150,000),” Carretero explains. “Also, with the aim of supporting the children of our colleagues, we subscribed in 2018 to the Fundación por una Carrera (Foundation for a Career), which helps students to evaluate their skills when choosing undergraduate studies, and guide them in the wide range of benefits they can apply for.” Of course, there is little use engaging with communities if the neighbourhoods in question are unreceptive to the ideas being proffered. At SRE, community feeling is meticulously measured and monitored so the sustainability team can gauge the impact their work is having. “We really believe that we must have the data and numbers to track the performance of every initiative we are working on,” says Carretero. “These have turned up some quite interesting results.” In 2017, the wine group instigated a Social Impact Measurement Study to look into how its educational programmes were perceived in the Alto Jahuel area. What Carretero learned was that while Territorial Valorization generated a high sense of belonging and attachment among students to the Maipo Valley in the short term, by the time they had reached the second grade in high school, this had declined. So SRE leapt into action, adding a second phase to its school initiative, which it hopes will keep students engaged. “It was implemented as a 2.0 version, putting our focus on entrepreneurial skills, and preparing students to decide what to study in the future,” says Carretero, who is pleased with how the programme is progressing.
The young ones: local schoolchildren take part in the harvest
  However, she is a firm believer that not all learning takes place in the classroom. In 2011, SRE established a series of live classical music concerts, which are free for local pupils and members of the public to attend. Called the Seasons Concert Cycle, these events see internationally acclaimed artists and orchestras perform in the winery’s atmospheric surroundings, including in its beautiful chapel, which boasts stunning acoustics. In June, SRE received 300 students from schools in Maipo to listen to Spanish musician Jordi Savall perform with orchestra Le Concert des Nations, which plays with period instruments. The next Seasons concert is due to take place at the end of September. “We could do the concerts only for a private audience but why not share this moment?” asks Carretero. Aside from education, Carretero is just as passionate about supporting the wellbeing of SRE employees. The firm has a medical centre at its main estate, which provides free care to employees and their families in areas such as pediatrics, gynaecology, nutrition, dentistry, psychology, and general first aid. “It’s an important contribution to the family budget,” says Carretero. “We also have a welfare fund, where we reimburse any medical expenses that are not covered by the public or private health systems.” SRE, which encompasses the Carmen, Sur Andino, and Doña Paula brands, spans such a wide arc of regions in Chile that assessing the needs of individual communities can be challenging. It’s why Carretero has invited a figurehead from each area to communicate its needs to the company so that the wine group can offer better support, she says. However, with brands jostling for sustainable credentials, and consumers increasingly aware of greenwashing, does Carretero think fatigue is setting in for the word ‘sustainability’? Do we need a new term to take us into the future? “I’m absolutely in favour of continuing to use the term,” she says. “It was defined by the scientific community in 1987 when the Brundtland Convention defined sustainability as something that satisfies the needs of present generations without compromising the needs of future ones. Sustainability is the convergence of being environmentally friendly, economically viable, and socially equitable. You have to have all three or you will vanish.” She does, however, recognise a need to be clearer around the language used. “I do think we need to educate the consumer that being ‘green’ is not necessarily the same as being sustainable. Organic and biodynamic only cover one part of the environmental chapter, but organisations may not be taking care of the social aspect,”she says. “I strongly believe that companies can make a positive impact on communities. Sustainability is a direction, not a destination, and any contribution towards this counts.”

Elena Carretero at a glance

Carretero began her career as a negotiator of Free Trade Agreements in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Chile, with a particular focus on wine and spirits. Following this, she was instrumental in creating a consortium between Chilean wineries and local universities for the purpose of furthering R&D for the wine industry. Part of this involved designing a comprehensive sustainability programme. In 2011 Carretero joined Santa Rita Estates as corporate affairs and sustainability director. She remains on the board of the consortium for R&D and sustainability of Wines of Chile today.
 
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The Big Interview: Simon Thorpe https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/07/the-big-interview-simon-thorpe-ceo-of-winegb/ https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/07/the-big-interview-simon-thorpe-ceo-of-winegb/#respond Thu, 28 Jul 2022 14:09:48 +0000 https://www.drinksbusiness.com/?p=537961 According to Simon Thorpe, CEO of WineGB, those who think English wine is a ‘one-trick pony’ are in for quite a surprise, writes Sarah Neish.

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https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2022/07/the-big-interview-simon-thorpe-ceo-of-winegb/feed/ 0 According to Simon Thorpe, CEO of WineGB, those who think English wine is a ‘one-trick pony’ are in for quite a surprise, writes Sarah Neish. THEY SAY in life we must learn to take the rough with the smooth, in which case Simon Thorpe must have got this down to a fine art during the last year. While it has been a rampantly successful 12 months for English and Welsh wine, with 9.3 million bottles sold, and growth across all channels, his beloved Arsenal FC did not perform quite so well. After failing to scrape into the Premiership’s top four, the North London team missed out on its chance to re-enter the UEFA Champions League, forfeiting the opportunity to bitter rivals, Tottenham Hotspur. One can only imagine how many bottles of English fizz it took to get over that one. So it’s a good thing that Thorpe has had one of his busiest years yet. Having joined WineGB as chief executive officer in October 2020, and spent a large chunk of 2021 setting and driving green targets for the industry, this year has been a blur of tourism campaigns, vineyard acquisitions, and hobnobbing with government departments to ensure that English and Welsh wine stays at the top of Westminster ’s agricultural agenda. There is no shortage of stakeholders to keep happy, as Thorpe alluded to when he said last year: “Our members are also our customers, which is a very different dynamic to brand management.” With 30 years under his belt in the commercial and retail spheres of wine, he spent much of his career on the other side of the fence, and is now relishing the chance to direct policy and put English wine centre stage. “The stars are somewhat aligned right now,” he says. “The quality of wine is great and getting better, production will increase (providing we get a good vintage), there has been a significant increase in plantings – around 4,000 hectares – which has doubled in the last seven years. And we’re also seeing major businesses – some of them international - investing in the industry.”

GLOBAL BRANDS

The arrival of more global brands seeking a slice of English pie has undoubtedly played a role in the wine industry’s latest glowing sales figures – up by 31% on last year. There are three big international players in the game: Taittinger, with 69ha of vineyards in Kent; Vranken-Pommery, with around 40ha in Hampshire, and, most recently, Freixenet Copestick, which, in January 2022, snapped up Sussex’s 15ha Bolney Estate. “The general sense is that it’s a positive thing. There’s no protectionism that I’ve heard of,” says Thorpe. “It gives confidence to the industry that it’s worthy of the investment, and that it has a very definite future.” The international nature of vineyard ownership also opens up valuable export-and-distribution channels already well established by the groups, which, given that 96% of English wine is still sold on home soil, could revolutionise the sector. But just how easy is it for international companies to push through the web of red tape to buy English land, and acquire the necessary permits to build on it? “It’s constantly difficult, especially in areas of natural beauty, regardless of whether it’s a domestic buyer or one from overseas,” Thorpe says. “It seldom seems simple.”
The challenge, as he sees it, is that the English wine industry is still in its relative infancy, and is therefore an unknown entity to many UK communities. “Local planning departments don’t necessarily have the experience of what opening a winery in their area will involve, or the understanding of why a community might benefit from having a winery on its doorstep,” Thorpe says. Of course, some of the more mature English winemaking regions are more forthright when it comes to instigating change. In June, for instance, came the announcement that Sussex Sparkling Wine had been awarded PDO status, which recognises the craftmanship and quality of wines made in the county. However, only wines that are entirely grown and vinified in Sussex qualify for this classification, and for this reason not all Sussex producers will benefit from it. Those who buy in contract grapes from outside the county to make up their blends are likely to find themselves left out in the cold. Thorpe admits he did not anticipate what came next, which was disgruntled producers from other English counties dismissing the Sussex PDO as little more than a “PR exercise”. It was probably, says the CEO, a classic case of sour grapes. Thorpe is keen to play it down, stressing that the few negative comments blown up in the press were “not really a true reflection of things”, and that the PDO is “certainly not a divisive initiative. One of the key things that typifies the English and Welsh wine industry is how collaborative it is.” That being said, he does have some sympathy with producers over the matter of whether the quality of terroir on one side of the Sussex border differs markedly to that on the other. “It doesn’t, so there is some validity to the commentary,” Thorpe concedes. “The boundaries are more political than geographical, and it’s impossible to denote one specific terroir to the whole of Sussex. It’s probably still too early to be able to establish specific regional identity as we don’t yet have the history to determine what grapes in one particular area will do from year to year.” He is faintly amused at the suggestion that the PDO is "nothing" but a marketing tool: “Well, a large element of it is a marketing tool. It’s there as a shortcut for the consumer to be able to understand more about the wines they are buying and drinking. And it did create noise, so it all helps to raise awareness of the industry.” It’s worth noting that the Sussex PDO was not a WineGB initiative, nor does WineGB necessarily support the rolling out of individual PDOs for each county. “You don’t need a PDO system to be able to talk about the great characteristics of an area. I’m not sure you need to establish a PDO to tell those stories,” Thorpe says.

DETAILED REVIEW

In a statement issued at the time of the Sussex ruling, Thorpe assured producers that WineGB was “committed to ensuring there is an appropriate GI structure for all” in the English and Welsh wine community. He also revealed that the trade body was carrying out a detailed review of existing regulations, and was on the cusp of sharing a missive detailing its results. According to Thorpe, the findings “will allow all producers to have their say.” When we speak in late June, the ink is drying on the paper, which Thorpe is aiming to release in July. He treads a cautious line when it comes to imposing regulations in the wine world: “We don’t want to put something in place that inhibits innovation, and puts boxes around winemakers in terms of what people from this or that county must do. We don’t want to fall into a trap of replicating what’s happened in some parts of the Old World. Let’s enjoy the journey of being able to see which regions are exploring what.” He pinpoints Crouch Valley in Essex as being a “really interesting area, with a distinctiveness to its wines” but acknowledges that the vintage is as big a factor as any in how wines around the country perform. “There is so much vintage variation, and temperatures are rising across the whole country. The more easterly the vineyard, the warmer and drier it tends to be. Further west is more challenging, but there are exceptions to every rule.” Indeed, it was a Cornish sparkling wine – Camel Valley Pinot Noir Rosé brut – that was served to world leaders at the G7 summit that was held in the county in June 2021.

WORK TO BE DONE

Photo courtesy: Chapel Down Vineyard Arguably, the most important factor in the regional groupings debate is whether or not consumers have reached a level of engagement where they care which county their English wine comes from, an area in which Thorpe says there is “still a large piece of work to be done.” According to the CEO, “people are more frequently walking into a pub or restaurant and saying ‘Have you got any English wine?’". He continues: "The sales growth demonstrates that it’s happening. But as English wines command a premium price due to their often limited production, it’s going to be easier for some venues to be able to supply them than others. As venues get used to having more English wine in their repertoire then consumer interest will grow in terms of different producers and where they are based.” While two thirds of English and Welsh wine sales today are sparkling, diversity is starting to creep in. “This industry is not a one-trick pony,” Thorpe says. “We are capable of much more than making traditional-method sparkling wine.” He nods to English rosé as performing especially well, but there are now around 66 varieties planted in England and Wales, including Pinot Gris, Chenin Blanc, and even Pinotage, that South African grape used to far balmier climes. As temperatures around the world continue to change, these varieties will become more viable. Just as integral to the evolution of the industry is the level of government backing it receives. One of Thorpe’s key missions when he took the reins at WineGB a little over 18 months ago, was furthering the industry’s relationship with Westminster. If reports are to be believed that more than half of wines served at official UK government events are now English or Welsh, then it would suggest this is going rather well. “There is a really active wine-policy team within the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), which is the department most closely involved in what we do,” he says. “But the reality is that post-Brexit they’re doing a whole load of stuff they’ve never had to do before. What used to be a simple shipment of vines from a nursery in Europe to the UK has become an increased process since leaving the EU. It’s my job to explain what the delays mean.” In terms of tangible changes to policy, Thorpe namechecks Defra’s recent agricultural-grant scheme, launched this year, as being a strong step forward. “This scheme now includes viticulture, which is the fastest-growing agricultural sector in England. It means vineyards can apply for quite substantial grants,” he explains.

SUSTAINABILITY SCHEME

It remains to be seen whether such funding will lead to a rise in the number of wineries signing up to WineGB’s sustainability scheme. Launched in 2019, the initiative currently has 83 members, with 40% of the area under vine in England and Wales falling under the Sustainable Wines of GB umbrella. But the auditing process is lengthy and expensive, meaning only a small number of wines on today’s shelves actually carry the SWGB hallmark stamp. “The real watershed for the programme will be seeing more bottles with stamps,” says Thorpe, who is looking into how to make it fairer and more attractive for smaller producers to join the scheme. As for future plans, he is keen to address labour shortages so that “we can get the best viticulturalists into our country”. But he stresses: “You don’t switch that kind of thing on overnight. We need to make sure we’re not running before we can walk.” Sound advice, too, perhaps, for the mighty Gunners?
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